The Apple Flavored Pomegranate
In this debut episode of The Apple Flavored Pomegranate show, we start the journey into the portal of coupling ecstasy. As veteran podcast hosts and co-creative experts, Justin and Tonya Dawn Recla ignite the airwaves with candid, real, and intimate conversations about their success in marriage, faith, parenting, business, and life! Through tongue-in-cheek explorations of Adam and Eve depictions and the bounty of confusing intimacy advice in spiritual and religious circles, coupled with the very real need for couples to build solid co-creative foundations, this much-anticipated show guides you in how to uplift and evolve your coupling relationships now and in the future. Don’t miss this provocative debut episode of The Apple Flavored Pomegranate and penetrate the portal to coupling ecstasy.
Justin Recla:
Welcome, welcome to the debut episode of our newest podcast show, The Apple Flavored Pomegranate. I’m sitting here with my, well, my muse, the love of my life, the one who keeps me on track, the one who holds the container on all things. Let me tell you that we would not be a couple if it wasn’t for the strength of the woman sitting here right across from me because I tell you what, I can be a challenge sometimes. But I know a lot of you probably can feel that way about yourself as well, or maybe even about your own relationship. That’s what this show is really all about on unlocking or activating the portal to coupling ecstasy. This show, I know it seems new for a lot of people, but this is something that you and I have been in discussion with each other for at least the last year, year and a half, as far as what we were wanting to birth in this podcast space, realistically, this is something that you and I have been birthing for at least on this plane, the last 15 years.
Tonya Dawn Recla:
Many, many lifetimes before.
Justin Recla:
Many, many, many lifetimes before, but the Apple Flavored Pomegranate, what’s that look like for the listeners? Where are we, what are we studying for them as we launch this show into existence?
Tonya Dawn Recla:
I love that you said setting up because it’s definitely a setup folk. If you’re familiar with any of our shows or our writings or anything else, then you know that there are depths and there are levels to these conversations. And the Apple Flavored Pomegranate seemed like this really beautiful way to start the depiction and sort of peeling back the layers, but also giving us something to step onto, to reimagine coupling moving forward. So it’s really important as we look at where we kind of stumble in coupling? Where are the roadblocks? Where are the obstacles? Where do those come from? Why are they those things? Why do we create these fissures? And where does that separation really stem from? Which for those of you who are tracking at home, you can see the apple and the pomegranate, and probably guide it back to some themes in our history. And we’re going to touch on things that really feed the coupling dynamic, both in a challenging way and then maybe in the beautiful, miraculous gift way.
And so it’s a very convoluted sort of abstract concept because the coupling is very convoluted and abstract and it exists on many different levels. And so the setup here is to create a space and a conversation in a container where we can truly feel free to look at all of the various nuances that go into the coupling, energetic dynamics. Like we’re talking about everything from what we think about each other and where that comes from to what we believe about ourselves and the world and the divine and how that plays into our relationships. How we have a faith walk in the midst of that, how we even have a belief, how we even talk about shared belief structures, you and I, honey, met teaching at the counter Intel school, trying to help agents understand that there’s really no set truth.
Counter intel agents. And you tell them there’s no set truth. , it starts to pick and poke to get our, our, our fabrics of reality, which is in essence, what the coupling act does in and of itself on so many levels. When you come together with somebody else with a different paradigm, a different world view, a different experience. And so, so coupling is really diverse and it’s rich and its experiences. And it can be super challenging if we don’t have a vernacular or we don’t have a framework or a way to even talk about what does it look like to come together in a way that is different from this battle of the sexes sort of motif. And in the gender-fluid conversations and the gender role fluidity conversations, we have to be willing to entertain that it’s not just male, female, and it’s not just this and that. And there is energetics that is much, much more fluid than that. And the more we give those voices, I think the more harmony we can find in these relationships. And it’s a beautiful miraculous gift when you can harmonize with someone else.
Justin Recla:
Yeah. And I love the fact that that’s one of the reasons why we use the word coupling. We’re not just focused on marriage, because coupling encompasses it all. It’s all about those deep, personal, intimate relationships that you have with somebody else. And that can look like anything for anyone. And we’re not here to go, “It’s got to look this way. It’s got to be our way.” No, no, no, no. Because we know we’ve experienced this ourselves, and we’ve seen that there is power in coupling together properly, not just trying to fit yourself into a box. Right. I think there are so many of us that go through life and we’re waiting for the right person because somebody said that this is what the right person should look like or what they should wear or what they should be.
Right. And what the best that we can hope for in those situations is that we find somebody close enough to who we are, what we think that’s supposed to be. And we, you try to then put that person in that box to make it work. And it’s not always the best construct to start relationships from. And so this show was really designed to just share our experiences in it, because we’ve been through the multiverse of layers, upon layers, upon layers within our own relationship, our past relationships, our individual relationships in that journey that we took as we found each other as well.
Tonya Dawn Recla:
Well, and I think to add on to that, even in more poly situations, the coupling conversation allows for us to really identify what happens when two of us join together and create that relationship entity. And then even if there are other people involved, there’s always this kind of, there’s always that relationship entity that exists between two dynamics. And so that, that is something we’ll talk about our relationship dynamics and how those operate and how those function in this kind of exponential fact fashion. But we also uplift that into the abstract frequency and the divine aspect where two or more of you gather, there’s always this element, this creative element at play, whether you call it God or spirit or the divine or whatever that name is to you, there’s an exponential factor that comes into play when we join together. If we understand the nuances, reframing that it always comes into play, we get to co-create with it is really positive and beautiful and robust and rich ways when we understand it.
When we don’t understand it, we get kind of bated around at the mercy of the dynamics. And so it’s more fun when you do understand it and can co-create with it. And all of that is wrapped up in these conversations for those of you who just know and have this sense that there is more, there’s more when you come together with, with your partner or your spouse or your friend or whatever it might be, however, you define that are dynamics at play. That if you can tap into them, there’s a whole other experience awaiting you, that is far richer and more satisfying than what appears on the surface.
And, and that’s, that’s the space that we play in that we love to play in. We sort of committed to that from the jump though that we were going to walk toward this energetic, oneness, this divine oneness together, whatever that looked like. And so we have a pretty unique little Petri dish or laboratory here that we get to speak from on top of decades of study and to human dynamics and human potential. And so the show will definitely enrich those of you who are interested in consciously in awareness in co-creation, walking in coupling together. And for those of you, we invite you to join us here.
Justin Recla:
I’m going to just tease you because we’re getting ready to go on break. You’re going to want to stay tuned because on the backside of the break, we’re going to give it to you all. Right up front. We’re going to share the one thing that if you can wrap your mind around what coupling looks like, and you can wrap your mind around this one concept that we’re going to explore on the backend, that in itself if you don’t ever listen to another show, this one thing will help you shift your perspective and help you uplevel your own coupling experience. But before we go on break, we want to invite you into the Super Power Experts Community. We’ve got a lot going on there. And a lot going on as to releasing the show. Because we’re going to have coupling workshops, we’ve got our coupling discussion groups, and we invite you to come, step inside, join the community, take advantage of many of the activities and events that you want to, and come play with this inside the superpower experts community. You can go to superpowerexperts.com for more information. We’ll see you right after this break.
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