Where Two Become One

Is it possible to attain a place in a relationship where two become one? Is it just a pretty phrase we use or something more? In this episode of The Apple Flavored Pomegranate, hosts Justin and Tonya Dawn Recla explore this alchemical idea from a variety of angles. They submit that the practice is possible and experiencing oneness transforms a great relationship into a miraculous one. Be sure to experience this powerful episode that reminds all of us to go deeper than the physical. 

Tonya Dawn Recla:

Hello, everyone, and welcome back. We’re so glad that you’re joining us again. Here we are, today’s topic. This is a yummy one, folks. We’re going to be talking about where two become one. And yes, we actually mean that. I know in the debut episode we talked a lot about oneness and coupling, and what it looks like when you do it with the divine.

And so, Justin and I are here today to share a little bit about what that experience is like. And like everything in the superpower arena, there’s this multidimensionality to it. And so we’re very aware that what each of us experiences on our own with this is different from what the other one experiences on their own. And still, we endeavor to come together and have a shared experience in the relationship entity, which is what the show’s about is how do you maintain individuation in a oneness type of container?

And so the idea of where two becomes one can be, we can talk about the metaphysics of it. We can talk about the physicality of it. We can talk about its sexuality of it. We can talk about all kinds of things, and it’s yes and more, please, right?

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Justin Recla:

Well, yes. Yes and more. I was going to say the same. It’s like, “Yes, please.”

Tonya Dawn Recla:

And I don’t think we should be afraid or timid to talk about the things that really call and light up our hearts. And so, it is okay too, as an individual, say, “Hey, Tonya, I’m not really sure what you’re talking about there. I’m myself and I want to be myself. And yet when I come into a relationship, I want to be able to maintain myself.” And there’s a lot of discussion in terms of current theories of psychology around being in a marriage, being in couples together.

And we chose a little bit of a different trajectory. I don’t know that we actually, I mean, we talked about it a lot. But I’m pretty sure at the moment that you and I met, we didn’t say, “Hello, hi, do you want to walk towards oneness with me?”

Justin Recla:

“What is this?”

Tonya Dawn Recla:

So maybe you, Just, you could share a sort of. Because I’ve always been kind of weird and out there. And so, I think you just kind of, and I don’t want to put words in your mouth, but I’m assuming this was one in a long list of weird things that you found yourself entertaining. And yet, it always sort of felt like home to you, right?

Justin Recla:

It always felt like home to me. I mean, the minute we met, it was like I knew you. 

Tonya Dawn Recla:

In a biblical sense? Not the minute we met. Come on, Jus.

Justin Recla:

Not the minute we met, no. But maybe-

Tonya Dawn Recla:

Not… Shhh.

Justin Recla:

But it has always felt like home and knowing that there was more to explore there. And when we first started dating, that’s why the confusion was setting in because I would constantly ask you, “What is this? What is this?” And Tonya’s response in typical Tonya fashion is, “It is what it is.”

And I didn’t know what to do with that because I was trying to identify this container that I just knew there was more to explore together, I wanted to explore. And my mind, my ego, and I wanted to know what it was. I mean, I look back on it now it’s like the man going, “Oh, I see something new. I want to conquer.” And it had an essence of that, but more expansive than that. And it wasn’t a conquering. It was exploring together that was really what I was seeking.

And I knew it was like, you presented like, oh, here’s Tonya, the individual. And when the two energies came together and combined, when we… You know, water twins activate, right? When that very first time happened, it was like God took it and went, expanded it way out. And it was like, “Oh, there’s something here worth exploring.” And my mind at the time was like, “Well, what is this?” And you’re like, “It is what it is.” And there was a, I can remember, a moment in time going, “Oh, I get it. We don’t know what it is.”

Tonya Dawn Recla:

It just is.

Justin Recla:

But we’re going to figure it out along the way together on what that looks like. And I remember that, we were eating Korean food at one of our favorite places down at Sierra Vista at the time, still contractors, still government workers. And I remember that, because you had been, I don’t know, we’d been seeing each other for several months and it finally clicked. I’m like, “Oh, I get it.” And that is what it is part was like, we get to explore that together. We get to figure out that together if we want to.

Tonya Dawn Recla:

Absolutely. And there’s so much wealth there. So thank you for sharing that from your perspective, because we’re going to come back from the break and dive into a couple of those nuances. And we’re going to see where it starts to create confusion in couples, but also where we can come together in choosing something different than staying in the confusion.

And so stay with us. Before we cut to breakthrough, make sure that you’re checking out superpowerexperts.com. It’s a phenomenal place to go for additional support. It’s where our listeners gather. It’s where those who watch our IM series, thank you to all of you out there who join us in our weekly video series.

It’s where everybody gathers in our community so that we can put these ideas to the test, where we can put them into action. Where we can share stories. Where we can explore new techniques through some of our discussion groups or our workshops. It’s a really great place to start putting this walk, your path, into action. This participatory activity that we’re all doing here is called life, we choose to do it together because it’s more fun.

And so make sure you join us over there, superpowerexperts.com. We’re talking today about where two become one. And we’re going to pick up on that as soon as we come back from the break. So stay tuned, you’re not going to want to miss even a moment of this. Stay with us.

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