Where We Go From Here

Where do we go from here? How can we move forward? In this episode of Science of Superpowers, host Tonya Dawn Recla is excited to welcome one of her favorite guests, Ervin Laszlo, again to the show. Ervin is the author of The Upshshift, Wiser Living on Planet Earth. He believes that each of us should have an overarching vision to know where we are and where we want to go. Obviously, we have to overcome the tremendous damages, the hurt we have suffered in ecology in the pandemic now with war and aggression, climate change, the refugee crisis, and poverty and destitution. We need new thinking, but that’s not enough to understand the past but also to look forward and to give, to go forward— and that is evolution. Tune in to know more about evolution and answer the question: Where do we go from here?

Tonya Dawn Recla:

Hello everyone, and welcome back to The Science of Superpowers. I am so excited to have you back on the show Ervin Laszlo. This gentleman is by far one of my favorite guests. He was on a while ago, a couple of years ago and we talked about spirituality, save us all. And he’s such a pioneer in the uplifting of the humanity of the encouraging, of just reminding all of us of what’s possible. And his book is being released again, The Upshift: Wiser Living on Planet Earth. Well, we’ll get to talk to him and he just sees everything so clearly and from that place of real confidence that we can do this. And so we’re going to be talking all about where we go from here.

I know so many of you are asking, okay, what do we do? What do we do? What do we do? And so many of us are going, we got to move, we got to move, we got to move. And it’s like, well, how do we move and how do we capitalize on the situation as it sits right now? And that may seem like a weird thing to think about because people are hurting and bad things are happening. That’s what our avatars want to tell us, but the world really sucks, Tonya. How can we go forward from here? There is light. We’re seeing enormous signs of change and opportunity, and it’s a balancing act because we also have to be willing to look at and move through what we’re all facing in our very real actualized existences. That’s a delicate balancing act that we’re in the middle of.

But even though we see things in front of us that we may not prefer, that’s not a reason to lower the bar. It’s not a reason to lose vision. It’s not a reason to lose hope or faith that should inspire more hope and faith. No, darn it. I know we can do better than this. And so please join me in welcoming, back on the show, Ervin Laszlo, who is such a bright light in this movement and we’re so happy to have him back on. Ervin, thank you for joining us again.

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Ervin Laszlo:

Okay. It’s delightful to be with you again, with all the people who follow you.

Tonya Dawn Recla:

Beautiful. Beautiful. Well, we’re going to jump right in. And so talk to us about this journey with this material and with this book and this movement, really, The Upshift kind of movement idea of, in our world, we say our religion is uplifting humanity. How has this been going for you and what are you seeing that’s so different now after we’re kind of through the last couple of years?

Ervin Laszlo:

Well, everything is different.

Tonya Dawn Recla:

In the sense of everything being different. So as I talk about or how I see it is sort of the infrastructures. We’re seeing all of the fissures and the cracks and the things that can be revamped and reimagined at this point in time. Are there certain areas that you’re focusing on or is your kind of a big overarching kind of view of how we do this across the board?

Ervin Laszlo:

Well, the overarching viewpoint has a lot of detail in it. It has to be, how do we do it once we need the vision? We need the vision of where we are and where we want to go, and that’s an overarching vision. And then we have to spell out, how we do it. How can we do it?

Tonya Dawn Recla:

Beautiful, beautiful. So talk to us a little bit about the book and the inspiration for it and how you’re holding it now.

Ervin Laszlo:

Well, I’ve written now dozens of books on this topic. Altogether, written 106 different books appeared in 24 languages, but this topic has been something accompanied in the last several years and wrote, for example, published the Dawn of an Era of Wellbeing: New Paths to a Better World a couple of months ago. And this book I published is a subtitle, as you said yourself, Wiser Ways of Living on Earth, the new subtitle because I’ll be rewriting and honing this book so that it makes it more sensitive and more clear for me everybody. The new subtitle is the Pass To Healing an Evolution on Planet Earth. I want to highlight this notion of healing and evolution.

Obviously, we have to overcome the tremendous damages, the hurt that we have suffered in ecology in the pandemic now with war and aggression, climate change, the refugee crisis and poverty, destitution, and economic crisis also. I mean, we have got to heal that. We have got to account for and understand the new condition. We have to need new thinking, but that’s not enough just to understand the past, that’s the first step. We also need to look forward and to give, to go forward. And what I call, I’m an evolutionary system scientist. For me, that’s evolution. Evolution is not just limited to biology, to organisms on the species of organism, not just Darwin.

Evolution is what has happened in the universe since the Big Bang, 13.7 billion years ago. Things have started to move and they have started from total chaos from randomness, from no sense and no stability, nothing that we can code and replace and understand after the Big Bang, and gradually first quite rapidly actually, atoms and particles emerged fusing into atoms, atoms into molecules, molecules, macromolecules, and then in the course of time, life appeared and mind. So this is a process that is going on, has been going on and it’s not finished. We are in the midst of it. This universe is evolving. Life on earth is evolving, but we know how it evolves. We can align with it. We can go with it. If you ignore it, that’s at our own risk.

Tonya Dawn Recla:

Yeah. That’s an understatement.

Ervin Laszlo:

Yeah, very much ignored it, actually. They lived irresponsibly. So we need more responsible living and more responsible thinking. And I founded this research Institute called The Laszlo Institute of New Paradigm Research, which is all dedicated to researching kind the new paradigm, the new way of thinking.

Tonya Dawn Recla:

Yeah, beautiful. I love it. You’re certainly speaking our language here. There’s kind of holding, being able to hold both ends of the vision moving forward, as well as the reimagining of what’s happened, and then really looking at that. It’s no different than the journey that each of us goes on individually as we evolve through the different layers and levels of our own awareness. And we get to see that played out on a global stage right now. And it’s painful for some really, because it’s shocking to think that perhaps the lens that they’ve been looking through wasn’t the only one, and then that there was a wider scope and that can always be very disruptive.

So, folks, we’re going to take a quick break here. You can find out more about Ervin at ErvinLaszloBooks.com. We’ll have a link for you there on the episode page, and make sure you’re going over to Superpowerexperts.com, because with all of the changes and the shifts and everything else, being susceptible to those energetic waves and those vibrational undertones, it can be difficult to navigate. Make sure that you’ve got your centering technique. Of course, we have CEFA over in our place where you activate your creative energy field. You can hold it, you can resource it. It’s that place of center and calm, so you can act more responsibly you can come from your own guidance. And so check that out over there and stay tuned because we will be right back after the break to talk more about where we go from here. Stay tuned.

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