In this episode, Scott Donat talks about being a demon killer as his superpowers. By demons, he refers to feelings of doubts, guilt, fear, and all the personal demons that we have. He talks about how you can fight your demons, and how that is possible but it does require some work.
Scott has become a hypnotherapist, a reflexologist, practices Native American teachings and rituals, and continues his work as a recovering alcoholic. He is an integral part of The New Way, a progressive spiritual community where diverse individuals come together to spread a vision of world peace and love.
I am really excited to have with me today just a gem of a guy. Scott Donat, I love being in his presence. He’s got this quirky solidity to him. It’s an interesting juxtaposition, but when you really feel into it, it’s absolutely perfect. He wields it so well because the power that he has is so strong. It allows the rest of us to get it in a really cool and unique way. He does a lot of amazing things in the world. He’s known as The Foot Guy, reflexology, absolutely amazing with his hands. Without further ado, please join me in welcoming Scott to the show. Welcome, Scott. Thanks so much for joining us.
Thanks for having me. I’m really excited to be with you today.
We like to just throw people in there, what are your superpowers?
Just as I mentioned, when we met, I’m a demon killer. It’s my definition of the dance that we do through The Way Through Workshop. Those demons, of course, aren’t the horned Hollywood-style demons. We’re talking about guilt and shame and abuse and trauma and the pains of life that ultimately, because of our inability to cope in the moment, later in life becomes something to get in our way. My thing, my power, my gift, my tool is I help people to go back and deal with those demons and reclaim their power and move into who they’re supposed to be. That’s a choice. That’s our ultimate goal, is to get people stripped back down to choosing who and how they want to show up in their world.
Sometimes our biggest challenge is the concepts of the journey and everything else people go through in their self-actualization processes, it’s very abstract. It’s very vague. The idea of demons and using that as that analogy is perfect, because sometimes it does feel that way. I did a show here recently on chaos and darkness and a lot of people ask me all the time if I believe in dark forces. It’s a really fascinating thing to explore at different levels. I think that the truth in that changes as people grow. Have you had that experience?
Yeah, in and of themselves, I don’t think they have power. But when you have an unexposed demon that you haven’t dealt with yet, there are powers out there, there are people out there who are aware of those things and use those things against you. Are there dark forces? There are people who are using your demons against you. Yes and no. It’s not a force. It’s the people. If I’m not presenting those buttons for you to utilize to manipulate me, then the only thing that I enter into in any way of manipulation is something by choice. It empowers me to walk around my world being conscious.
Give me an example of one of these demons.
My demon was rage. It still is to a certain degree, although the great big fire-breathing dragon is now what my wife likes to call the little two-inch snort. Although it’s still there, it’s much more manageable. When I arrived to do my work in 1991 in Melbourne Beach, it was at the direction of my therapist who sent me there because she was stuck. She didn’t know what to do with the rage and the anger and the alcoholism and the family trauma that I was showing up with. It was so bottled up. I had held onto it for so long that I needed something to rattle that loose. When I went down and worked with my mentor, Art Sellers, he rattled that loose. I was able to release this massive amount of energy that I was utilizing to hold all of this stuff inside that was eating me up. My best example is me. I was this twenty-something-year-old who, in my alcoholism, believed that I was a superhero because I would beat up skinheads because I thought I was doing a good thing.
There, I am, performing these evil acts. I say evil, take that for what it is. It’s this thing that goes against my moral compass. There I was doing these things in the name of goodness. It was just a lie. It was my anger and it was my rage trying to express my core. My core was I wanted to end racism and everybody to love each other, but it was coming through this spectrum of rage and anger and hurt and disappointment. When I was able to clear those demons, clear those energies, clear that emotional energy, then I became just an empowered man. Then my love was able to come through clearly. Then my passion is about truth and honesty and about being conscious of the vulnerable. All which came shining through in that good and balanced and beautiful way.
Sometimes we do fool ourselves, maybe these stages and part of the journey for most people is that you start off being unaware. We move into being hyper-aware. We move into just being. In the hyper-aware place, we are trying to get a foothold. We are feeling into what do we stand for and what do we stand against and creating a lot of these battles that really just representative of the battle that happens within us. It’s difficult to see because we live in a society that will absolutely affirm that there are bad things that happened and you have to take a stand. You could stay in that cycle forever, many, many, many lifetimes, and most of us do, because so much of what we are inundated with affirms that.
One of the core principles that we function from is it’s an inside job. It’s an inside job to the point where it’s an inside job every time, no matter what. It’s always an inside job. If I always come back to, no matter where I end up in my following that dance out there into that world, when I find myself there, I know how to come home because it’s an inside job. I took myself out there. I can bring myself back.
I think it already exists. But with collective consciousness, it’s hard to tell. I was threatening to write a book called “Own Your Shit and It’s All Your Shit.” It’s hard to see because it’s so easy to justify. I work with clients all the time. It’s always, “He said this. She did this.” I was like, “Every time those words come out of your mouth, just stop and go, “I said this. I did this.” It’s one of the first ways I know to really crack through that illusion of “maybe that’s not real.” I tell people, everybody’s just a little avatar playing in your game. Because when you can see that way, it really does get over that and rid the world of that “me agains