Dean RadinDean Radin, PhD, Chief Scientist at the Institute of Noetic Science, joins Tonya Dawn Recla to discuss whether or not magic and superpowers can change our reality. Dean’s book, Real Magic: Ancient Wisdom, Modern Science and a Guide to the Secret Power of the Universe, challenges the bounds of what is acceptable as science. He has boldly tackled the very polarizing conversation about the relationship between psi studies and science. Listen to this amazing dialogue that tackles conspiracy theories regarding how we interact with the world and why we’re programmed to blindly accept materialism as the only viable explanation of our physical reality and what happens when we move beyond the obvious.  

Hello everyone, this is Tonya Dawn Recla, your Super Power Expert and I’m really, really, really excited for today’s episode. This gentlemen I’ve been kind of looking into for a while now ever since I stumbled upon his book Real Magic. I know we’ve talked about it on previous shows and we talk about it within the Super Power NET, but I felt like it was really important to bring him on to kind of share his perspective because what he’s done has created this relationship between looking at maybe the esoteric or magic embroidered into the realm of sciences really flushing it out from there. His book is so significant that the endorsements alone make it incredibly impressive and you said the president from the Statistical Foundation?

The American Statistical Association.

And that’s no small fete folks, and so we’ll get into all of that here soon. But I mean, you can read Dean Radin’s bio and it’s just incredibly impressive the work that he’s done in the world and I, for one, am just really excited to have somebody that is this courageous to kind of bring these conversations out of the science arena on the show today. So we’re going to be talking about can magic and superpowers change our reality. These conversations are great. I love the philosophies and everything else, but what is the impact, where are we looking at taking this down the road and in the future? So please, without further ado, please join me in welcoming Dr. Dean Radin to the show. Thank you so much for joining us.

Thank you for asking me.

Beautiful. So we jump right in. We’re going to ask you what are your super powers? Let’s kind of flesh this out a little bit: Like who are you in the world and how do you categorize yourself?

I would say that my super power is being comfortable with large amounts of ambiguity because you’re working in science, especially the edge of the known, most of the time you don’t actually know what you’re dealing with and you have to be comfortable with that. Otherwise, you wouldn’t do it.

Well, my hats off really to you because I don’t know everything that it took for you to step up into space but I have seen enough of the controversy and can only imagine the internal kind of journey you had to go through to step forward and s