Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Sex, Love and SuperPowers podcast show. I’m your host, Tatiana Berindei, and I am so excited to have with me here today my friend and business advisor, Justin Recla. We are going to be discussing men’s relationship to wealth and power. This is going to be a really good one, and before we jump in, I’m going to tell you a little bit about Justin.
Besides being an incredible human being, amazing husband, and father, Justin Recla is also an Army Veteran. He’s a former counterintelligence agent, and he successfully transitioned counterintelligence techniques into the business world. As a corporate counterintelligence consultant, he increases trust and certainty for his clients’ business relationships, and he founded the Clear Business Directory to promote transparency in business-to-business transactions.
In addition to changing how business gets done, Justin courageously embarked on the Super Power Experts adventure with his wife and my dear friend and agent in this work of changing consciousness, Executive Director, Tonya Dawn Recla. As the director of operations for Super Power Experts, he provides the much-needed balance to her cosmic persona. Ironically, as a channel and medium himself, he plays an integral role in connecting her with information and entities valuable in the pursuit of higher levels of mass consciousness. Together, they model synergistic co-creation at levels few couples dare to tread while raising their daughter, Neva Lee Recla.
Welcome to the show, Justin.
Thanks for having me on. It’s a pleasure to be here. We’ve been planning this for some time.
I know, and I’m excited about it. It’s a powerful topic, men’s relationship to wealth and power, so I’m looking forward to diving into it with you today. But, before we go there, would you share for our audience some of your super powers?
Absolutely. They’ve evolved over the years as you can imagine.
I’m sure.
The way I get my intuition is through emotional energy.
One of the big ones is my emotional. The way I get my intuition is through emotional energy and being able to … When I was an agent, I utilized this in some really unique ways, and at the time, I didn’t have the language for it. But now, looking back, I’ve been able to understand how and why that I was able to use those, my intuition, in the way I did, utilizing that emotional energy that comes through. And meeting Tonya, when we were working together, when that really helped me evolve that, and through the years in business, I’ve been able to really utilize my intuition and the way I receive my intuition through that emotional energy to recognize and evolve.
But sometimes that, well, make it more for me, majority of the time, a lot of the emotional energies that I’m experiencing aren’t necessarily mine. But it’s beautiful because it gives me the opportunity to reflect as to what’s going on with whoever I’m talking with, whatever situation I find myself in, and really be able to use that fully to people in the services and offerings that our businesses provide. But in really me being able to up level and change certain outcomes in our own businesses and our own lives because I’m able to read the opportunities a little different than most people do, and so my intuition is strong.
And then, as you mentioned, I have been a channel, a medium, my entire life. I’ve seen ghosts and all that kind of stuff, and that, too, has evolved. It used to be perceived that I would get information, and it felt like it was coming in from an outside source. Throughout the years, it’s really integrated that, and now, the information that I receive is really more of like a universal knowingness and just paying attention to all the information that’s coming in. And so, I have more internalized it over the last couple of years to where it’s no longer perceived as something outside of myself, and it’s now more of my own, whether it be my own intuition, my own knowingness that I’ve really integrated. And I rely on it quite a bit, and when I’m quiet, dealing with a patient, and when I truly listen to that information that’s coming through, it’s powerful. And I’d say we’re able to guide our business decisions and assist clients from a very powerful place because of that.
And this is one of the things that I love about you. I mean, there are a lot of things that I love about you. But for those of you who don’t know Justin, when you look at you, you’re this big, muscular guy with a bald, shaved head, and little goatee, and you could look kind of intimidating. If you didn’t know Justin, and you just sort of ran into him on the street, and all you know about his background is that he’s a counterintelligence agent, and its like, “Wow. This dude can be kind of scary.” But you are one of the most gentle. You’re like a big teddy bear on the inside and so kind, and so, really, I think when you spoke about your ability to sort of emotionally tap into where someone’s at is absolutely accurate.
I’ve seen you with your daughter, and the way that you hold her and the emotions that children go through and that we all go through, and it’s such a beautiful thing to see. I think a lot of men have sort of been fed this image of you’ve got to be a tough guy, and there’s not really this space for emotions. Men aren’t necessarily taught that it’s okay to access that, and yet, what I’m hearing you say is that your success is primarily due to your willingness and ability to access that.
You don’t have to be a dick to be a powerful man.
Yeah. I think that the most men fall into one of two camps in historical. If we take a look at as to how men have been reared over the last 20 or 30 years, it’s either you don’t express your emotions. You keep it all inside, and you bottle it up because if you cry, if you feel emotion, it’s a sign of weakness. And then, there’s the other side of … Actually, three camps, right? So, you’ve got the camp that’s like, “You don’t show any emotion because it’s weakness,” and then, you’ve got the other side which is the overly emotional men that have been extremely emasculated over the last 20 or 30 years because of just all the different things happening in society. What you’re supposed to do with a boy and not do with a boy and all this kind of stuff, and so you get the over emasculated male that is the other side of the spectrum. And then, it’s just as unhealthy as those that bottle up their emotion.
And then, you’ve got the third camp, which is the pound the chest, “I am man,” caveman type of mentality that kind of integrates emotions a little bit, but it’s still a lot of the pounding of the chest type of thing. And I think realistically, somewhere in the middle, and it’s kind of how I live my life is that you … It’s an integration of that, and there’s a new way of masculinity that’s now caveman, pound the chest, that’s not over emasculated, that’s not burying your emotions, but it’s showing up in full masculinity. It’s one of the things that Tonya and I have been talking about, as you know, is that the divine feminine has been evolving for the last 20 or 30 years. The divine masculine has really been pushed aside. It’s really been pushed aside, and men are still trying to figure out who they are. You can …
We see a lot of evolution of men trying figure out who they are and whatnot, and you could be a man. You can be emotional, but for a lot of guys nowadays, what that translates to is that also means that they’re a dick. And you don’t have to be a dick to be a powerful man. You can come from a very heart-centered space and connect with people and be of service to those folks and stay true to yourself at the same time without being lost up in just straight emotion or burying your emotion. It is a balance, and I think, for the most part, I think there’s a lot of men that are out there seeking that. Men fill those gaps through various means, whether it be alcohol or sex or money. The tell-tale sign of where a man’s true weakness is is obvious when you pay attention to their behaviors and how they show up in the world.
Yeah. Absolutely. I think you raised some really, really fascinating points that I cannot wait to dive deeper into. We have to go to a quick break right now. But before we do, will you please tell everybody where they can go to find out more about you and your work?
Absolutely. They can find us at clearbusinessdirectory.com.
Awesome. So, we’ve been talking with Justin Recla about men’s relationship to wealth and power. You don’t want to miss this conversation, so stay tuned. We’ll be right back.
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