Dr. David GruderDr. David Gruder, a Psychologist and the President of Integrity Culture Systems, joins Tatiana Berindei to talk about understanding men and the journey of elevating the divine masculine. His mission is to make happiness sustainable, collaboration productive, integrity profitable, and society healthy. He is known for his broad talents, integrative mind, unquenchable passion, huge heart, deep integrity, and naked authenticity. Everything he provides is geared to help you make all of this possible so you can succeed in your chosen spheres of influence. Listen in as he shares his insights about understanding men in the wake of #MeToo.

Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Sex, Love, and SuperPowers Podcast Show. I am your host, Tatiana Berindei, and I am so honored to have with me today Dr. David Gruder. We are going to be discussing understanding men in the wake of Me Too. David Gruder has a very impressive bio. He’s a Ph.D. He’s a clinical and organizational psychologist who’s president of Integrity Culture Systems. He’s also the director of The Center for Integral Leadership at the California Institute for Healing Science. Since the 1970s, Dr. Gruder has provided keynotes, training, consulting, and mentoring to executives, entrepreneurs, thought leaders, helping professionals and their teams in eight countries on three continents on over 100 topics.

Among his multiple hundreds of media interviews and articles, he’s been featured twice in Inc.com and 18 times in Forbes. Named America’s Integrity Expert in 2008 by Radio and TV Interview Reports, Dr. Gruder was the recipient of a leadership award and a culture creation award. He’s authored or been featured in 23 books, and his own books have won eight book awards, six of these for his book on restoring integrity in society, leadership, business, and personal life, called The Integrity IQ. He was the founding president of the 20-year-old Association for Comprehensive Energy Psychology and co-architect in two of its certification programs.

He’s on the faculty for and has served on the board of the business development organization, CEO Space International, and he is a Certified Ritual Elder with The Mankind Project. I also just so happen to know that he sings a mean version of Puff the Magic Dragon. That was such a fun jam session, by the way.

It was.

I am just really excited to have you here today, Dr. Gruder. Thank you so much for coming on the show.

Oh, it’s my pleasure, Tatiana, and when I’m listening to these kinds of introductions, there’s a really big part of me that’s sitting back saying, “Wait a minute. Who is that person?” It’s exhausting. Just to listen.

You’ve done a lot. Like I said, I’m really honored that you’ve taken the time to be with us here today. I think it makes a lot of sense that you’re a leading expert on integrity because you carry that at the very core, the fiber of your being. Integrity is absolutely the word that I would use to describe you, and it just emanates from you.

Thank you.

You’re in the right line of work, according to me, my little humble opinion.

I was going to be held to an inhuman standard around integrity

I was going to be held to an inhuman standard around integrity.

Well, just by way of a quick story, I asked people … Gosh, it’s now, oh, about 20 years ago, 18 years ago, something like that, that I asked them about what is my brand. It’s like I don’t know. I have so many different interests, and I’ve got my fingers in so many pots, I don’t even know what people see me as standing for or representing. Almost universally, people said, “Well, that’s a no-brainer. It’s integrity.” My internal reaction was gulp, oops, wow. I don’t know if I really want to be the standard bearer for that, and then when the guidance came through about … Well, actually, the integrity book that I wrote came out 10 years ago now as we’re recording this, so back in 2008, and when the guidance came through for me to start writing that book, I did a really big gulp because I realized that if I was going to follow that guidance, I was going to have to be willing to hold myself to an impeccable standard of integrity because if I dared to write on that topic, I was going to be held to an inhuman standard around integrity.

Otherwise, who was I to be able to write on that topic. It was a real challenge for me to finally step into surrendering to the guidance around writing that.

To also that you’re human, and we’re all human, but I definitely understand that place of, “Oh, my gosh. Am I really going to step into that space? Then I gotta live it,” right?


There are all eyes on you now.

There’s no way to do a topic like this around do as I say and not as I am. That’s just not going to fly with this topic.

That’s right. That’s right. Of course. While we’re on the topic of integrity and maybe this is your answer, but I do like to ask everyone who comes on the show, what are your superpowers?

Well, it’s a great question. I think that my biggest superpowers are, first of all, wordsmithing. I come from a family where I got edited to death growing up, and I got edited to death by two parents whose voicing couldn’t have been more opposite. My dad was an attorney who did a lot of technical writing, and so he edited me from a very technical perspective and a critical thinking perspective and all of those things, and my mom was a published poet.


I got edited from as diverse and opposite set of voicings that you could ask for. That, I really bless my parents for driving me crazy as a kid. I really hated it, but throughout my adulthood, starting in early adulthood when I was a proofreader for and then ultimately became the executive editor for a newspaper. I became deeply grateful to them for that. That’s one superpower.

The other, honestly, is that I am blessed with being able to take high-level vision and good intentions and values and goals and translate those into step-by-step, practical procedures that enable leaders and