Hello everyone and welcome to the Sex, Love and SuperPowers podcast show. I’m your host, Tatiana Berindei, and today I have with me Debra Graugnard, and we are going to be discussing how to build self esteem through conscious living. Debra Graugnard helps people to deeply and intimately know themselves. Body, mind, heart, and spirit. And honor what they uniquely need to live a life of vibrant health, joy and fulfillment. She works primarily with women who want to stop allowing society, self image, body image, and even what they see in the mirror to define them so that they can fully express who they naturally are. Debra is a spiritual healing practitioner, author, speaker, and a student of Sufism for over 20 years. She holds a masters of divinity and is creator of the Community for Conscious Living, the Care For Connection Transformational Healing Process, the Food, Weight, and Feminine Power Program, and more.
Debra’s one of a kind system teaches you to know yourself from the inside out, and love yourself as your source created you to be, flaws and all. And there are no flaws. I love that piece. Welcome to the show, Debra.
Thank you, Tatiana. Thank you so much for having me.
Absolutely. So before we get started, I would love it if you would share with us, what are your superpowers?
My superpower is to be a super seeker.
I love that you ask this question. My superpower is to be a super seeker. And that comes from a strong desire for truth. And I can say more.
Yeah, say more. Say more.
Okay. Also … you know, I used to have this poster on my wall when I was a kid that’s … it was an Einstein quote that said, “I want to know God’s thoughts, the rest are details.” And you know, I think this … where this particularly hits home since traveled this whole personal development and self help world is how many times have you heard someone say that your past makes you who you are today?
Right.
I’ve heard that over and over again, and even recently … fairly recently, was in a workshop where, you know, that “oh your past is what makes you who you are. We’re gonna take a look at all of your life defining moment in you past.” And if that’s true, let me just say, Tatiana, God help me.
Yeah, me too.
Right. It’s like no, no, no, no, no. I am not gonna let any of that stuff define me, and you know, I’m not stopping there. So the super seeker superpower is that seeker of the deeper truths. And in the … to the seeker of the deeper truths, that whole your past makes you who you are, that is a great misconception. Because your past actually just establishes your pathways that you’re going to travel on this earth realm in the body to become who you are. Your past takes you through a lot of events and these things that we, you know, tend to think of as life defining moments, right? We have our events of this life. We have our lineage. We have our … you know, this whole historical line. Past lives, if you believe in that. But these are not the things that define us. And if we stop with those, and think of those as what defines us in this life, we have not reached truth. We can call on that super seeker superpower and keep going until you discover that deepest reality within you.
I love it so much, and I couldn’t agree with you more. I think … you know, even yesterday … I really live by that concept that every morning I get to start over. And-
Ah, beautiful.
And that has helped me so much in my life and has helped the people that I worked with, and I’m sure you’ve seen this tremendously … I mean, I am really curious to dive into this topic more with you because you work with people who’ve suffered really traumatic abuse in their past, and so to bring forward this concept that the past does not define you is powerful and so huge. And yet, some people really … they cling to that because there is an identification with the story that comes along with it. I’d love to hear you talk a little bit more about how you use that concept in the work that you’re doing with trauma survivors.
Part of us will get frozen in time.
Yeah. You know, thank you, Tatiana. Especially with trauma. Trauma, you know, has that … the power of trauma is that it can freeze us in an instant, in a moment. And it can, you know, freeze … there’s the autonomic nervous system that has the sympathetic nervous system. When you’re met with stress, there’s fight, flight, freeze, and you know, some people say faint or collapse as a fourth one. And with trauma, you know trauma has that tendency to stop you in your tracks and freeze you. And we get frozen, or a part of us will get frozen in time, and there is a strong identity that we take on with a moment of trauma or an event of trauma.
And then we spend our journey, our life journey, trying to get around this somehow. And trying to overcome. And it becomes … and you can hear people when they talk, whether it’s talking about trauma or an illness or some life defining event that they are a … either a victim, and I know a lot of people in the self help world don’t like to use the word victim, but you know, there is a time in your life where you actually are a victim. And then you become a survivor, and then you become a thriver, and all of these things are still revolving around the identification with this event. Right? And then if you really want to go even beyond that, there is that time where you release yourself completely from the identification with that event and allow yourself to drop into that deepest reality inside your own heart and soul of the divine light being that you are.
And so, you know, this concept really is a strong one for people who have experienced trauma. The work … I’m sorry, go ahead.
No, no, keep going. ‘Cause we are gonna have to go to break soon, so I’ll ask you this question after the break. I want to leave space for the conversation. Actually, maybe we should … just ’cause we’re here right now, why don’t we … why don’t we just take a quick pause, and then we’ll dive deeper into this conversation, uninterrupted. So we’ve been talking with Debra Graugnard about how to build self esteem through conscious living, and I am … I’m excited to dive into some of this juice with you. Before we go to break, can you tell our listeners where they can go to find out more about you?
Sure. My main website is joyfullylivingwellness.com, and I think everything pretty much branches out from there.
Great, and you have a book that they can go and find also?
Yes, and I’ll get more into this, talking about this. This is a … book is called While We Were Silent, and it is experts sharing stories of healing from sexual trauma. And it really brings to light why people stay silent about abuse, what happens during the time of silence, how to break through the walls of silence and find healing and find truth and all of these beautiful things that we’re talking about today.
So beautiful. So you can go and find that book on Amazon? While We Were Silent?
Absolutely.
Awesome. All right, Debra, we will be back after the break. Stay tuned because this is gonna be a really good conversation.
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