Hello, everyone, this is Tonya Dawn Recla, your Super Power Expert, and I am excited. I’m always excited and today especially. So we’re going to have this amazing conversation today, folks because this topic is very, very, very near and dear to my heart. We’re talking today about the necessity of transformational leadership. That’s kind of like, okay, great, what does that mean? But listen, things are absolutely changing, folks. If you’re not getting that vibe, you’re probably not paying attention.
So what’s needed right now more than ever is the ability to pivot, right? To pivot, to be able to hear guidance, to be able to move a little bit differently, to entertain maybe creative ideas that you wouldn’t have entertained previously, like, I don’t know, staying at home with your whole family for months on end. So there’s all kinds of whatnot occurring, and we have to be able to find that inner peace and decision-making component internally because we’re not finding it externally as easily as perhaps we have before.
So transformational leadership is really a solid solution, and it’s because it looks at all of these components and not just the systems and the processes and what are the tweaks of it, but also where do the humans fit into this and how do we get humans to comply into these systems and how does it all kind of mesh together well?
Today’s guest is an absolute expert in this area, Robert MacPhee, who you’re going to be able to welcome here in a second, is the author of Manifesting for Non-Gurus. I love it. We have lots of guru conversations here at this network. He’s former director of training for Jack Canfield. I know you all know and love the name associated with Chicken Soup for the Soul and also founding member of the Transformational Leadership Council. He knows his stuff, folks.
So I’m really excited to have him share some of that deep wisdom with you today and see how you can take steps in your own life to apply transformational strengths that perhaps you’re needing to lean into now more than ever. So without further ado, please join me in welcoming Robert to the show here. Robert, thank you so much.
I’m thrilled to be here. I’m glad we have the opportunity to do this.
Oh, well, so am I. So am I. So we jump in here, and we’re just going to go right to the heart of the matter and ask you what your superpowers are?
Wow. That is right to the heart of the matter. So two things come to mind. One, and you and I touched on this a little bit before we hit record, but parenting, turns out, is one of my superpowers. I didn’t know that until young people started showing up in my world. But being a dad is super important to me and really right at the top of my list of values, but also something that it turns out I’m really good at, based on how well my kids are doing and how much joy I get from that process. Parenting would definitely be one.
I think the other that comes to mind would be coaching. There’s a part of me that cringes when I say that because in today’s world what it takes to become a life coach is print a set of business cards with Vistaprint and anybody can kind of do coaching. But the truth is I’ve been really blessed over the last 20 years or so to work with some really amazing people and learn a lot from some of the greatest speakers and authors and teachers and trainers in the world.
You mentioned I worked with Jack Canfield for a long period of time. He was a huge mentor to me. I’ve landed in a place where I feel like I’m a really good listener. I feel like I’m really empathetic, and I’m also really open-minded. So I feel like all those things add up to my ability to coach people in a sense of helping them find solutions to whatever really serious and significant issues they’re faced with in their life.
So coaching, but on a really deep level, like real coaching, not life coaching. Anytime someone says, oh, you’re a motivational speaker, or oh, you’re a life coach, it just makes me cringe.
Yeah, I get it. I think we’ve all gone through that. You and I were laughing before about the transition from being a counterintelligence agent and doing some of this stuff, and you’re like, what? I started reading tarot cards as a counter intel agent. You want to talk about being in the closet, right? I just kept looking at the spirit going, really, seriously, this is where we’re going? It was designed to crack that wide open, of course. So I think that it is natural for a lot of us to go through that. I remember a conversation.
I was running a valet parking company, so that was my counterintelligence. That was my complete like, how on earth did you transition from there to here?
You probably have more secrets than I do.
There you go. Yeah. When you’re in and out of people’s cars, I got, oh, I know more than I wish I knew.
We thought we were taxicab confessions. That’s you. Anyway, well, I love the fact that you are willing to give that voice. I think it’s something that we all go through, and yet there’s an undeniability that we want. People are craving support and assistance. Where do you go? I’ve said for a while now, folks, that it may be easy to start a coaching business, but we have done deep, deep studies of this, and it is the most difficult business to maintain, not structurally, but from a professional standpoint, from a care, from a guidance standpoint. It is one of the most challenging because ultimately you’ve got some responsibility in that as you’re dealing with clients. So be really cautious about just wanting to kind of get your business cards and call yourself that. There’s a huge responsibility that comes with it.
We’re starting to see so many people awaken in that space who have had experiences in much more developed and robust industries, and they’re putting market pressures in that space. Most of you have no idea how to manage liability-wise or anything else. And adding onto that, if we don’t attend to the market demands, we’re going to be facing regulations. End of story. That’ll wipe out everybody who’s not prepared for it.
So let’s be reasonable about this stuff. If you don’t have any business coaching people, then don’t coach people. You may have great information, but there are all kinds of ways to get that information out and to be synthesizing it for your own development without putting yourself and other people at risk. There you go. There’s my soapbox. So I’m going to pause there for a moment because we’re going to cut to a break. But Robert, before we cut to break, let’s tell people where they can go to find out more about you.
Excellentdecisions.com. I was very blessed when I did my rebranding. That domain was available, so I didn’t have to create something super tricky around it. Yeah, just the name of my work is all about making excellent decisions, so excellentdecisions.com is the best place to find me.
Beautiful. Beautiful. Well, folks, we’re talking today about the necessity of transformational leadership. We’re going to dive more deeply into that after the break, so stay with us and we’ll be right back.
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