Hello everyone! This is Tonya Dawn Recla, your Super Power Expert, and I have a treat for you today. I am so excited to have this couple with us today. I don’t often get to talk to the couples. I think with the Sex, Love, and SuperPowers show, usually they migrate that way, but you know, I snagged up these two so we could have a chat over here at SuperPower Up about really, really amazing work that they’re doing in the world.
And so, they call themselves the “Sex Docs”, and so you know we’re going with this conversation today. But John Robinson and Dr. Cristina Bosch are just these amazing people who … What I love best about them is the energetic entwinement. It’s got this real electrified sense to it as they work together and move through the world.
And they’re doing good stuff, and really around the concept of helping couples, obviously, and not just couple but everybody. But as it relates to the hormone aspects of sex, but also, they don’t stop there, and I think that’s what I appreciate about them most. They’re living it, they’re breathing it. They work together, and so we like the conscious couples and the collaborative partnerships in business.
But they add in this really cool optimization of sexual health, through the hormone conversation, and so it’s super grounded, super practical and pragmatic, but yet, with these tones of love, and connection, and spirituality, and energy, and all of the wonderful things that we like to talk about over here at Super Power Experts.
So they’re a perfect integration of all of that and they bring a wealth of knowledge and experience with them to the show. And, I’m absolutely going to mention that they have been voted for Cutest Couple, which is absolutely true. So, if you’re listening, just go to our website and look at their very cute picture. And also, best Endocrinologist from Arizona Foothills, the best of list.
So, without further ado, please join me in welcoming Dr. Cristina Romero-Bosch and Dr. John Robinson to the show. Welcome you two.
Wow. Thank you. That was a wonderful intro.
That really was. It makes me more excited to be here now.
Yeah.
Yay. Awesome. Well, that’s kind of the goal of that. Somebody told me one time, “Can you just introduce me every morning?”
Yeah. No Kidding.
Just start recording them and sell … Oh yeah, I do record them, so we can just clip it and then you can listen to it every day. Very cool.
So, our first question is, what are your Super Powers?
Well, how about we do it this way. I’m gonna answer first for myself. And then, maybe you can answer for you. And then maybe we can come up with something on how we combine that together as a couple.
You two are so cute.
We’re gonna make a compound word. All right, so …
We look at the world in an integrative way.
Yeah. We’re gonna figure this out. So, I’m a Naturopathic Physician, we’re both Naturopathic Physicians, and as Naturopaths, we’re already looking at things in an integrated way. We’re looking at the world in an integrated way. We’re using the lens of this whole holistic approach, to approach people with their health.
And so I think one of the things that I personally do well is, I’m very good at examining multiple different parts and really bringing it together. I just think it’s one of my skills. It’s something that I did in my first book, The Hormone Zone, that Cristina contributed to, and it was this 500-page tome of just all kinds of concepts that, I’m really just, as I said in the book, on the shoulders of giants.
And I come up with these ideas because I research and look at what other people have discussed. But I think, where I excel, is systems analysis and bringing things together for people, whether we’re talking about the multiple different levels on a physicality, but also from a mental/emotional/spiritual standpoint.
So, I’d say I’m the blender and that communicator on that level.
Mm-hmm.
I love it. So the synthesis of everything.
Yeah. That’s great. And then, so I’m gonna answer them. First of all, I love the notion of superpowers. We really have a thing with superheroes in our house.
Yes.
And then, I’m gonna tie it back into what I think our couple superpower is. I’m the opposite of John. I’m more of the super intuitive, you know, we always joke and John says that I have witchy ways; very intuitive.
I love it.
They say I’m a little bit fluffy, but I think it’s very true. Maybe almost like energy reader. I have a really good skill at just looking at someone and then going, “What’s wrong?” And then they’re like, “What? What?” And usually, there is something wrong.
And I think it’s funny that John commented on his analysis and then synthesis, and I’m commenting on my, more of like what’s the story behind the person. I can’t tell you the author of my favorite book, but I can remember stories from a patient’s timeline from five years ago.
Artiscience – Art and Science.
So, when you put those things together, I think our superpower as a couple is something that we refer to, when we’re doing our Facebook Live sessions every Tuesday, we had this notion of a word, and it’s called Artiscience, which is the combination of the word art and science.
John always presents on the science, which is usually very analytical, research-based. And then I always present on something artistic relating back to the health topic, and usually back to sexuality and sex. So, I would say that our superpower as a couple is this notion of Artiscience, where we strike that wonderful integrated balance of art and science for, pretty much every aspect of wellness.
I love so much.
Yeah. It’s a polarity.
Yeah, absolutely. And I love so much of what you’re talking about, which is why we’re shaping the show today around it, calling you all the “Sex and Relationships Doctors”, because we love the sex dialogues; it’s fascinating and titillating if I dare say.
But the core underneath all of that, my bias is, this time we’re seeing a lot of couples choosing to come together and work together, not just in business necessarily, but a lot of them are doing that, also. But re-vamping what it means to be in a partnership together. And we really do attract a lot of those folks and it feels different.
I have memories of a lot of different lifetimes, and parallel universes, and everything else, but I like the romanticism of saying that this feels different this time. That it feels like we’re cracking the code of truly being collaborative in our relationships.
And Justin and I even went so far as to work it into our vows when we got married was, we were very clear that we were here to bring each other closer to God and whatever that looked like. I was pretty opposed to the whole dialogue around marriage until somebody gave me a copy of Kahlil Gibran’s book, “The Prophet,” on marriage. And they just gave the section on marriage, and I was able to listen to that, and read it, and embrace it in a way that I had never embraced the concept of marriage before.
And I have amazing examples of marriage. My parents are still together. It wasn’t that I had a negative view of it, it just didn’t feel like it fit. And then, all of the sudden, it fit.
Mm-hmm. I love what you’re saying. It’s true. We have this hyper-sexual world, and yet we’re drastically and painfully lacking intimacy. How did that happen?
And then I, you’ll hear me say this a lot or one will hear me say this a lot, I had this very traditional, very conventional upbringing. The same thing, my parents have been married for 47 years, and I always thought, having sex every day is one of the primary reasons people get married. I’m like, once you’re married, you’re allowed. Now you have permission. Your parents, there’s god, and everyone says yeah, go at it.
And then I get into this business, trying to help people with their health and wellness, and feeling sexy and loving.
Nobody’s having sex.
And nobody’s having sex! I said, “Wait, wait, wait. What’s going on here?”
Hold up.
There was a major schism between what we think is sexuality, and we understand that, really, what most people are looking for is intimacy, and yes, the physical pleasure that comes with that.
And I like that you tie that together. I think that we see either or. Like the hyper-sexualization or the overlay of the hyper-spiritual. And as spiritual beings, we shouldn’t really want sex, right? We don’t need it, and all these other things. And while I will hold space as some of that’s truth, I get you move further and further into wholeness and connection, it certainly, it’s not a need.
There’s no dependency there and, it’s like why not. Like you’re talking about, you’re allowed to now. You get to do this. And it’s so funny, we talked a little bit before the show about our daughter, and she’s such an amazing teacher. And one of the concepts she was having so much trouble with is, she’s really big into nakedness, she doesn’t really understand why she has to have clothes on. And we took her to Burning Man, and that was like heaven for her. She was like, “Oh cool. I can do whatever I want to do.”
But what was so baffling was, and I don’t remember how it came about, but the conversation around, you can show a bare butt before you can show a bare, in our house, we call them a Yoni and a Lingum, that’s the verbiage that we use. And she’s like, “Mom, I just don’t understand.” I was like, “Well, honey, I don’t know. I got nothing. I don’t know where all this comes from.”
And she’s like, “Yeah. But your Yoni is like … You give birth there. And your butt, like poop, comes out of your butt! Like why?” It was so innocent and pure. And it was like, “Why can we show butts where it would defecate and why is this … ?” She just has these things that come out sometimes, and I was thinking about that because of the hyper-sexualization and everything else, I’m learning so much about how silly some of the ideas are and some of the norms are, through her eyes.
Because, if you go to try to explain me, you’re like, “Yeah. I don’t know. I really, I got nothing. I really can’t help you with that.” And so, it’s so masterful.
I think that’s exactly what we’re wanting to do, and we are starting to do, is create this conversation that, certainly with our patients, and if we’re in the middle of a consult, there’s a level of intimacy and privacy that’s going on with that, but even in that setting, it’s amazing with the statistics how many patients don’t bring up sexual difficulty or problems in the bedroom in any way. They don’t even bring that up with their doctor.
So nobody’s talking about. So, what Cristina and I are wanting to do is present this as a conversation that is honest, that is forthright, that is medical perhaps, at the appropriate time. And it’s something that you can just engage in, there doesn’t have to be this sense-
And not judgemental.
Yeah. There’s no judgment, there’s no shame, which is probably one of the biggest things that go on with sexuality. And just make it frank. And I think, a lot of times people even hesitate to say anything, and if you just simply say it but say it with truth, and say it with meaning, then we just open it up and you break down those walls, hopefully right away, and just have an honest conversation.
Hey, your daughter is giving you and giving us, giving all of us, the audience as well, a perfect example of how easy it is for her to talk about those things that are really good questions. I mean, they’re at the core of our heart, our brain, our soul. And she’s asking them without any connotation. She’s just inquiring.
And you would be surprised, Tonya, to see how rare that is. Before the show started, you had us, “Oh, so how’s it going with the sex talks?” And what I want to say was, “It’s going great!” Because once people say, “Oh. The sex talks. Maybe they’re someone I can talk to about these questions. Maybe they’re someone I can ask about how things work, how things don’t work.”
And maybe there are people out there that are thinking to themselves, “Gosh. This doesn’t feel as good as maybe it should,” and then they’re able to come to us with those questions and then say, “What’s the difference between the yoni? What’s going on with my yoni versus my butt?” And really good questions without a socially imposed connotation.
Yeah.
Well exactly. And for the work that I do, that we do over at Super Power Experts, I’m amazed at how many couples aren’t dialoguing openly, together, in that space. And it leads to so much miscommunication, and hurt feelings, and shoving down of insecurities, and all these other things.
Justin and I’ve gone through so many levels of exposure in the sense of, like the latest one, I described as like, I just felt like I sat and I verbally vomited. I just made him sit there and I’m like, “Okay. This is all coming out.”
Like anything that was in me that was the least little shred of embarrassment from the third grade, or whatever it was when one little girl told me my toes looked like sausages, and it was like, you kind of like throw that all in there and shove it in, and we don’t realize what a role that plays in shaping our existence.
And so, we pull it out to look at it, and I’m like, oh my God. I was laughing at myself, this was like an hour. And I’m like, “And then … And then this happened … And then I had this, ” and I got done and I was like spent. And then looking at him, I was like, “Oh my God, that felt so good. You go. Do you.”
You sound like, from Goonies. Remember that scene with Chunky, when he starts confessing from like the first day.
One time in Kindergarten … Oh, my God.
It’s so funny. You’re right, yeah. You may think, “Gosh, I guess that’s why I don’t wear open-toed shoes,” or whatever. We don’t realize how, like you said, things that we thought we dealt with actually have shaped us, perhaps in a way that makes us feel less wonderful and less beautiful than we are.
Mm-hmm. And I don’t think we see that any more than in body image and sex. And I remember, for some reason in high school, I was like the go-to expert in all things relationships and sex, which was comical to me because I wasn’t in a relationship and I hadn’t had sex yet.
But it was like, for whatever reason, I was just that person who, like you said, who created that space that people just felt comfortable talking with them about it. And I took every class with the word ‘sex’ in the title in college, and I’ve always been fascinated with how people interact, and how attraction works, and how our bodies function, and in a lot of the mystery in how we relate to each other.
Because, I think intrinsically, I got that it’s not always the healthiest. And I wrote a book about a couple different rape situations in my own existence that led me to be able to open up some of this dialogue, and really getting clarity around how toxic that lack of communication is, with yourself as well as with other people.
And we see it with our young people. We’re still teaching our young people that boys should try to get it, and girls should pretend they don’t want it. And it’s like, how is this helpful? It’s not in any way, shape, or form leading to anything good. And so, opening up that space to have those dialogues, I’m just gonna go out on a limb and promote you all in a pretty powerful way, and say that I don’t know that there’s any more powerful conversation.
Because the work between couples right now is so crucial, and it rests on that as the foundation. So I applaud the work that you’re doing in the world.
You know, thank you for that. I think it makes me think of the word intercourse. And I think that’s, in fact, even what your daughter was saying and this idea that … or what we were saying about spirituality, where maybe sometimes people get away from the physicality of sex, but intercourse comes on all these different levels.
Spirituality is a full of intercourse.
There’s intercourse that’s happening right now. And, to be sexual doesn’t mean penetration, also, and we talk about this a lot with our patients. This idea of sexuality is about intercourse-ing with everything and everyone around you. And I think that’s certainly what spirituality is about. It’s a full level of intercourse, and you can use the physicality of sex in order to, perhaps, bridge these things. But it isn’t always necessary like you were saying.
But we do think it’s a big part of who we are and that’s what kind of starts the whole process of it. The physicality.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. To get a little soap-boxy, because we can, thankfully you’re allowing this forum to exist so that we can get this way, when you think of the importance of the work you’re doing with your interviews, and with the couples, and the stuff that John and I are trying to do, we have to, we have to acknowledge that this is affecting the world at many different levels.
Number one is, we’re helping to create happier, healthier individuals. Number two, we’re helping to create happier, healthier couples. Number three, happier, healthier couples lead to happier, healthier families, communities, countries, worlds. Ultimately, when we have a stronger foundation within yourself, and with our community, our partners, whomever they may be, we’re able to make decisions that effect, literally, the world and the future because we’re not so reactionary, we’re not so insecure, and we’re so unhappy.
I love it. So you heard it here first, folks. Good sex leads to world peace.
Yeah, it does!
We’re gonna take a short break …
We’ll write a song about that.
… I think it’s perfect.
Or they already did.
Billy Joel wrote one.
That’s right. So, we’re gonna take a-
That makes me think of-
Oh. Go ahead.
Oh. Go ahead. No, John, finish your thought.
A lot of this is about polarity. And I was thinking about you was saying, too, about what is needed? How do we make this bridge? And so, we’re big believers between our own relationship of this idea of polarity. Of masculine and feminine energies coming together.
And it doesn’t necessarily mean male or female in the traditional sense, but it certainly means an idea of, which partner is masculine and which partner is feminine? And bringing that together and honoring both of those things. To allow the masculine to be masculine. To allow the feminine to be feminine.
And I think, perhaps, maybe we’re in a situation where some of that idea is getting a little muddied. Or, maybe socially, we feel there’s difficulty in doing that. Whether men trying to be men, or even sometimes, women just trying to be women, sometimes can get a little bit muddied.
And there’s a lot of different ways to define all of that, but we see it in a way where men need to be integrated. They need to be fully allowed to be who they are. And then, with women being able to be who they are, just helps to bridge that gap that created the intercourse, that creates that polarity, that creates that intensity, that fire, that thing that draws people in together and it creates one plus one equals three. Making more than the sum of the part through that polarity.
Such a powerful statement. Yeah, I think that opens us up to some really juicy stuff that we can get into right after the break. So, we’re talking with Dr. John Robinson and Dr. Cristina Bosch. And we’re talking about the Sex and Relationships Doctors, ’cause that’s what they are. And so, we’re gonna take a quick break, and when we come back, we’re gonna dive more fully into exactly what John was just talking about, and just how important these conversations are. So stick with us, and we’ll be right back.
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