Do you make talking with God a habit? If not, who is guiding you? What is guiding you? In this episode of Super Powers of the Soul, host Tonya Dawn Recla is joined by guest AngelaMaría as they talk about the practice of talking with God, especially in moments when one gets triggered, or gets into constriction. Tonya and AngelaMaría also highlight how one cannot receive the gifts of the spirit unless they, from their volition, choose to step into that. Join Tonya and AngelaMaría in today’s episode and discover how you will know whether it is God talking or your ego.
Hi everyone. I’m Tonya and welcome. We are so excited to have you here with us. We love this concept of being able to sit and be in this space. And so, we’re first going to remind everybody to take a deep breath and this is SuperPowers of the Soul, of course. And so we just want to be in that flow and kind of invite spirit into commune with us here and recognize that there’s just a natural beingness of things. And when we can tap into that, we get to just simply go for the ride. Not to diminish the journey, not to discredit the steps along the way, but your experience of it truly can be that. So at least while you’re listening to this show, let’s make sure that we’re settling into that and reminding ourselves that there is light in the world and put a smile on your face, right?
We have AngelaMaría with us today who we’ll bring on here in just a second and she’s constantly reminding us to smile, right? Maybe you aren’t feeling that glow right that moment, but when you allow it to cross your face, you’re reminded of that. It’s a beautiful way of kind of tricking yourself into a more loving, kind of gracious, generous light-hearted sort of feeling. And so we invite you to adopt that right now and whether you’re driving and there’s traffic or you’re at work listening and maybe shouldn’t be, whatever the case is. If you’re in this space with us, then we invite you to be in the space, wholly, no matter what else is going on. And it’s really important for today’s conversation because today we’re talking about, Talking with God, and in this conversation comes up so much in our coaching dialogues with our clients, in the work that we do at Super Power Experts.
Because ultimately if we’re not willing to open that space up, then who is guiding us? What is guiding us? And it may be in moments, our own intuitive ability is fine, our own abilities are fine, but certainly, in moments when we get triggered or we go into a constriction, we find that those are limited in their ability to guide us. And so wouldn’t it be nice if in those moments we had somewhere to go, where we know that we don’t have to suffer, that we don’t have to make the wrong choice. We don’t have to think so hard about it. And that’s what today’s conversation is all about. So please, before we go any further, join me in welcoming you to the show on AngelaMaria. Hello, my love.
Hello, Tonya. Hello to everybody listening. I’m so excited about this conversation because this conversation has changed my life.
Well, I think it’s probably safe to say it changes everybody’s lives because it is the conversation, right? I mean, a lot of times we’ll… I’ll say, we only have conversations… We can have conversations about the only thing that matters, right? And people are, well what’s the only that matters? And it’s waiting, this is important and this is important and this is important. But at the heart of it, it’s what’s driving it all? What’s the point? What’s the purpose? Or what’s the perspective of the filter that we’re using to glimpse everything. And one of the things I appreciate so much about you and your work with our clients and the Super Power Programs that, and your work in IM Series is that, that light that emanates off of you when you’re allowing that to just shine, right?
It’s this beautiful, brilliant reminder of the fact that light working is a thing that we do, right? There’s an intentionality behind it. And I love that glow, that emanates from you as you sit more deeply in that space. So first of all, kudos to you. But I know that this has been a journey. So maybe share with everyone listening, what that was like, sitting where you’re sitting now, how did you kind of talk yourself through understanding what you were doing as you more closely aligned yourself with God?
This has been a roller-coaster adventure that has had the highest and the lowest. I was raised Catholic, very Catholic, very, very Catholic. Bold in every single group at church. Youth, kids Bible study, the committee for celebrating Christmas, the committee for celebrating the holy week or Easter. That for us is more than holy… The holy complete week from the Sunday where Jesus got into the town until he was… until the resurrection in Colombia is the whole week. Something really big. And I was into all of that. One of my role models, my uncle, was a priest, a Catholic priest, and my aunt, she’s not a nun because she doesn’t belong to a specific community or she doesn’t wear the normal outfit that nuns wear, but she’s so into the church and she works with our community about helping people to go to hospitals and being company for people that go to hospitals and they don’t have relatives close and, or they don’t have enough money. Like he’s just, she’s into all of that.
So imagine I was also studying in a very Catholic school. When I graduated from high school, I went right away to work as a teacher, because I studied in a high school with an emphasis on all of these about education and teaching kids. So I finished when I was 18 years old, and I jumped into school to be a second-grade teacher, who was also Catholic. Every single school that I work at in Columbia was Catholic. So I was teaching my students how to believe in God, how to pray the holy communion, all the sacraments, all of that. But suddenly my life changed and I couldn’t get what I wanted, that it was to stay here in the United States, legally, of course. And I couldn’t! I had to go back to my country, I was so mad at God.
And that’s when the lowest experience with God I had, because I couldn’t understand how come if I was a really good God’s daughter and I was always following every single rule, going to church every Sunday, being so involved, teaching people how to live God, how to be a good Catholic. I wanted to stay here in the United States, and that didn’t happen. I wanted to get married and that didn’t happen. Every single boyfriend was saying, you’re so good. You’re so beautiful. You’re perfect, but I’m not ready. I’m not committed. I don’t want to have kids, blah, blah, blah. So I went into a really deep fight with God. And I didn’t understand why he wasn’t giving me what I wanted if I was giving him my whole life. And I just stopped believing. I said this is just B-S. This is not true.
And when I came to the United States, it was even worse because seeing all of this, the way people live here, people having help from the government to eat and being able to have shelters and all of that stuff that we don’t have in Columbia, I was thinking, why did I bear in Columbia? That doesn’t make any sense why I wasn’t born in Switzerland, United States, Europe. Why in Columbia? What did I do wrong to see a lot of poverty and scarcity and violence because imagine my teenage years were with Pablo Escobar. Bombs here, bombs there, a lot of violence. So it’s like a new world lights up for me. This is not what I want. This is not the God I want to believe in. So I was mad at God and I tried to live my life without him, without her.
And I started this spiritual path where I said, I don’t think it’s about religion. It must be about something else. That is not religion. I started just doing all my education and all my certifications and all of that in Reiki and meditation and Akashic records, life coach, spiritual coach, every single thing. But now I realized it was more trying to explain what was that force that created me because of course there must be something bigger than me. It wasn’t God, of course back then. But when I start all of this journey, the more I start realizing there must be something and I don’t know how to connect to that something. And from the Akashic, I started feeling, it wasn’t an emotion, it was something really cool, really… I just got tears in my eyes and later on, I understood that there was, there was somebody. And when I was explaining, it’s… Remember what was the expression Tonya that I shared?
Oh, I forgot the expression that I shared. Then you said, “Oh my God, I love that for a show!” but I forgot that, the expression on spiritual orgasm, something like that! You just feel like you have the world in your hands. Like nothing matters. It’s joy, tears in your eyes. And when I start experiencing that, I thought, I want to believe this is God. And then this beautiful woman, tall, strong, and wise appeared and talked to me about spirit. I said, “Tonya Dawn Recla’s spirit is just something like God”. And I need to be very honest, but I think no, you were the one that brought me back to this path of faith.
And I have tears again in my eyes because I think I wasn’t really close. It was a parallel path, but I didn’t want to name God. I was talking about a force, something bigger than me. But when I just had had this reconciliation and you gave me the book, A Course in Miracles and I start reading it. And then I start making this association, every single thing I’ve gone through, it was from this perspective. I really needed something that I could hold on to when I was lost, when I was living in scarcity, in sadness. And that is exactly the point where I went back to talk to God. I said, God and having this intimate relationship with God as not in religion, I just brought it back from the cross, that was something else out of me. Now it’s something in me.
And the way that I feel it right now is when there is a dark space and there is the light that is taking more and more space of the darkness. That is exactly how I feel that presence. Feel there is darkness in me. And sometimes I have doubts and sometimes I forget about it and then I get worried and I think that I need to control it and I need to do something else. You’re out of the center. Remember, it’s not about you! Then I go back. And so it’s still cool.
I was talking to my husband this weekend and I told him, “You know how I feel?” I feel like when you have a relationship that is in freedom and you know that person is always there with you, for you, in you, around you, through you, but he’s not chasing you. You know he’s there, but he’s not, Hey Angela I’m here. Hey, Angela remembers to meditate. No, no, no. I know he’s there. And that presence makes sure that I know that he’s there. Through you, your book, through a sentence, but he’s not that insistent thing like the persona, or that he’s always there, no! That’s not true. No, it’s different.
That’s right. It waits to be chosen. A lot of times when people are unclear, well how do I know when it’s God talking or my ego? And it’s, God is very patient. We have free will for choice or for a reason and in that, there’s not only that, but you can’t really receive the gifts of the spirit unless you, of your own volition, make the choice to step into that. I love everything you just got done saying folks, you can understand now why she’s such an incredibly valuable part of our coaching team. Because without that as the foundation, we are left kind of adrift. We are left to pull on our own resources or to try to control things through our own volition and I love what Angie’s story shares here about what happens when we do that.
We do need to take a quick break, but before we do folks, you can find out so much more about Angela Maria if you go to superpowerexperts.com, you can look at her show High-Frequency Healing. She’s the IM Series coordinator, so make sure you’re checking out that, that’s step two in the process. And she’s one of our coaches in our Super Power Programs for step three, so she’s well integrated into our whole ecosystem and an amazing, just light and brilliance and that divine presence, it takes real courage to step into the beingness of this path. And I love that you model that for others, but we’re going to take a quick break and when we come back, we’ll hear more from Angie. So stay tuned, because you’re not going to want to miss that. We’ll be right back.
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