Hello, everyone, and I am Jennifer Urezzio. I’m a Super Power Expert and the founder of Soul Language, and this is SuperPowers of the Soul.
I have to tell you, of all the people, and there have been a lot of people that I’ve interviewed, these two are crazy in a good way. It’s Malcolm and Simone Collins, and we’re going to be talking about today the ownership of your beliefs and identity as a function of consciousness. Welcome you, two.
Hello.
We are so excited to be here with you today.
You guys just crack me up. I start with the standard question, which I have a feeling it’s not going to be so standard with you, is what do you each consider the super power of your soul?
Oh, I don’t have one of those.
You don’t have a soul, or you don’t have a super power?
I was fortunate enough to be born without the burden of a soul.
Well, congratulations. Go for it.
Or super powers.
Superpower is definitely repeated blunt force. I am as dumb as a bag of hammers, but I am really persistent, and I’m very pleased about that.
Oh, I love how persistent she is that she always outworks any problem.
I love that. I think that to kind of be in this kind of consciousness or transformation, or even ownership or responsibility of the life you create, you’ve got to be committed and you got to be persistent. Because if you’re not going to do it, no one else is.
Exactly.
I know, Malcolm, that you don’t have a soul. But do you have a sacred purpose?
No, I do. I do have a purpose, and it’s something that I’m so passionate about doing these days, which is just to try to create in an environment in this world where, when someone admits they’re wrong because they’ve been presented with whatever evidence they value, that’s not a bad thing. That’s saying, “I was wrong about this, and I changed my view of this subject,” is not a bad thing.
All the money for our book goes to that non-profit.
That’s why we started our non-profit is, and that’s what we … All the money for our book goes to that non-profit because it’s like our big thing these days. We think that a lot of problems that our society is facing, and not just in the US, but around the world, we lived in a lot of countries is, is so many people it’s so hard to just say, “I’m wrong.”
Yeah. Well, I call that consciously transparent. I always say to clients, “Listen, I love when you tell me that it doesn’t resonate or I’m wrong, because you’re tuned in within. Go for it.” I think that growing up in Corporate America as I did, and then, doing this weird soul language, connect your soul stuff …
Uh-huh
Right. It’s like I bring the tangible and the intangible together. There’s a difference between ownership and blame and judging someone because of a misstep or a mistake or they just didn’t have all of the knowledge, or because sometimes we just screw up, so I love what you’re saying.
Simone, do you have another answer for that? You guys work as a collaborative team, but is there something around your secret purpose that you want to share with the audience?
It’s the broader element of what Malcolm is talking about, which is getting people to think intentionally and actually think for the first time. Say, “Okay, is this what I truly believe? Is this what I truly value? What evidence do I use to decide what’s right and wrong?”
Yeah. I joke around because Facebook is such my nemesis, right, but it twitches when people go, “Okay, so here’s my book cover. Tell me what y’all do you think?” I’m, like, “Why are you doing you life by survey?” Like, what do you care about? It’s about you, it’s about your energy, it’s what you’re putting into the equation. That’s consciousness, responding to the world and how you want to respond to everything.
What has been that common thing for both of you about what you have learned, the common theme? Mine has been that I am worthy. That’s what my soul has shared with me the most. But what’s been that common theme that your innards have kept hitting home with you?
You’re just masturbating your ego.
What surprised me the most as we’ve gone through the process of figuring the philosophy of this book and finding the best ways to help people find what really matters to them and develop those philosophy that help them become their truest self is some of the biggest indications that you’re doing the right thing is you’re offended by something, or you’re otherwise deeply uncomfortable and nervous, which is not usually what I’ve always grown up hearing was, “You know, if it feels right, that means you’re on the right track.” What we’ve learned, at least from our research, is if it feels right, you’re probably doing it totally wrong.
You’re just masturbating. You’re just masturbating your ego. You’re just sitting there jacking off if it feels right. When it feels wrong, when it feels uncomfortable, when you’re offended by something, that’s when you’re improving, and you’re engaging information that you probably don’t already have.
Yeah, and that’s beautifully said. The way I’ve always said that to clients is, is “Look, when the not enough comes up and you’re feeling cranky and things are feeling icky, that’s the moment that gold is happening because you’re turning to something bigger.”
I think that, so often, people think that things feel good, but what they’re really feeling is that little hum of not discontent. It’s that hum of everything is just fine, I’m comfortable, but there’s no heart in it, and so, it feels good because nothing feels bad. But it doesn’t feel great, so it’s just this weird hum of kind of blah.
That’s the lives of 99.9% of people, we feel.
I can’t imagine a scarier feeling just to become suffocated by that hum.
Ooh.
Ugh. You know, it’s so funny because when I was in Corporate America, I was doing PR. I was allowed to talk to media because I would tell them the truth. I wasn’t allowed to talk to clients because I would tell them the truth, right?
So, a couple of years ago, I said to my best friend, I go, “Now, people pay me to tell them the truth,” and it was that I couldn’t fit into that box in Corporate America because I was that big shiny neon sign that says, “Are you kidding? This is marbles. This is not life and death. This is about marbles.” It became this kind of push-pull, and with the media, they’re, like, “It’s not about marbles, but we’re going to promote marbles, so how can we make the marble look the best?” So it’s that low level of, I think, that people are just kind of on this auto-pilot because they desperately want to fit in, and they’re afraid not to.
Oh. I love the way you worded that so much. The concept of an auto-pilot is something we focus so much on in our book in what are the auto-pilots that people are really running on? Its hypothesis is it isn’t always about fitting in. Most people’s auto-pilot are just some sort of an archetype they have of who they want to be, whether it’s the hippie adventurer living in a bunch of different countries, or the good, conservative dad, and so much of what they try to do are the marble king of Pennsylvania. It’s about optimizing that self-image.
Love it because I never had that skill. I was just all kind of wonderfully conscious in a mess and sometimes really angry, which didn’t suit me, but I never could kind of fit into a role when I … and we’re going to talk about this more after the break. But I remember my twentieth birthday when I came down. I was still living at home because I went to college in New York City and I lived at home. I came down, it’s like, “Okay, I’m 20. I got 20 years to get me right, have a couple kids, get divorced, and then, find out what I want to do.” I was, like, “Yeah. I don’t see me doing any of that, Mom.” And I didn’t, you know? It’s not the kind of frame that I thought of myself. I didn’t even know what frame I fit.
So before we break, tell everyone how to get in touch with you and learn more about you and this amazing book.
We strongly encourage you to check out the Pragmatist’s Guide to Life by searching for it on Amazon. You can also visit our website, pragmatist.guide, where we have plenty of resources for people reading the book, such as a form where you can submit a friend’s name and have a friend receive a free copy of the book so you can read it together.
Or just email us. We’re always happy to chat. We’re not like that big a deal.
You guys are, like, answer your own email, you pick up your own phone.
pragmatist.guide, okay? That will get me.
Love that.
It’s pragmatist.guide, yup.
Okay, everyone. You’ve been listening to Malcolm and Simone Collins and the topic today is ownership of your beliefs and identity, a function of consciousness. This is Jennifer Urezzio, and this is Superpowers of the Soul. Stay with us, and we will be back shortly.
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