Dare to Scale

Justin Recla:

Welcome back to Incorporating SuperPowers. If you are listening to today’s show, you’re not going to want to miss this, because if you’re an entrepreneur, if you’re in business, you know that the key to your success, of exiting your business, is to scale. I know it can be scary, but you’re going to have to dare to scale if you want to get out, eventually stop doing what you’re doing, and go live the dream. Right? That’s kind of why we got into it, is to help people, but how do we exist? How do we make sure we just haven’t created another job for ourselves? Well, my guests today just happened to be experts in this arena. My guests today are Warsha Joshi and her partner, Evan. Evan, if I mess this up, please, I apologize. It’s Evan Le Clus?

Evan Le Clus:

Thanks, Justin, for having us. What I love about. Sort of where I came from, I grew up in an entrepreneurial family that ended up in the corporate world for a long time, and then joined Warsha in the businesses. Sort of seeing both sides of that, if that sort of makes sense.

What people are looking for, when they come to us, is getting out of that founder’s funk, where they get stuck in the weeds, stuck in the details. They don’t know which way to turn. There’s a sense of overwhelm.

Justin Recla:

Oh.

Evan Le Clus:

How we’ve written the book is, there’s a lot of the mindset space, getting yourself out of the mess and reattaching yourself to the vision, the reason why you started in the first place. Because if you don’t remember what that is, then everything else is just going to work.

Without the vision, it’s just too hard. It’s those people who are lonely at the top really, and they need a place where they can get that advice, help, accountability as well, and where they can actually extract themselves out of the business. Sometimes that’s quite hard because there’s a bunch of elements that we need to look at, within the business, to make sure that they’re all working properly. That’s what that person is looking for to get themselves out of the business, to work on it.

Justin Recla:

I can appreciate that. I know when we started to scale, we had gotten to the point of being overwhelming. Okay, this continues to go any bigger, I’m not going to be able to do it on my own. We’re not going to be able to manage this on our own. We have to start putting other people in place. We have to start putting other systems and processes in place.

Evan Le Clus:

Mm-hmm.

Justin Recla:

I love the fact that you both work in your teams because it’s not just the two of you, right?

Evan Le Clus:

That’s right.

Justin Recla:

Warsha, how many other people do you have, part of your teams, that work with your clients?

Warsha Joshi:

Oh, goodness. We’re seven, who directly work with a client. Aside from that, that is the background team who actually manages the show, if you will. It’s like what we say in the book, it’s like a team sport. There’s no such thing as one person who faces the camera is the whole brand or the whole company. There’s always a team sport. The people behind the scenes who make everything happen.

Justin Recla:

Oh, I absolutely love the fact that you said that because we got. The running joke in our house is, because Tonya is kind of the forward-facing vision of the business, she represents Super Power Experts, our coaching platform, the Superpower Network. She’s kind of forward-facing and we always joke that she’s just the talking monkey, because there is a team of people behind her with that. I absolutely love that. Now, Evan, I’ve got to ask. In the time that you’ve been doing this, what would you say is the number one reason why people don’t take action to start putting scaling aspects into their business?

Evan Le Clus:

Sometimes, it’s imposter syndrome. They don’t feel they belong when they don’t believe in themselves. They second guess themselves. Quite often, especially if there’s a generational gap, like if dad started the business and it’s the second generation that’s now running the business. I mean, Warsha here is the expert on that. There’s a difference in values, and a disconnect sometimes. Definitely, there’s that sort of space where maybe the vision wasn’t big enough, the dream wasn’t big enough

Justin Recla:

Mm-hmm.

Evan Le Clus:

You know what, especially, we find where somebody’s come out of corporate, and I’m partially guilty of this, where you know what it was like. Warsha has a wonderful quote about this. It’s where the buck stops. Initially, it’s the buck stops for that individual. They know what they had, and the perks, and the power, and the hierarchy, all that sort of thing. Because they didn’t have to look after the entire business and they were in a narrow part of it, they don’t realize that there’s a bigger machine behind them supporting them. It’s everything all at once. If that kind of makes sense. It’s a very interesting dynamic.

Justin Recla:

I agree. I think there’s a lot to that as to not feeling ready for it. But ultimately, if you want to scale, if you want to exit, you want to not feel trapped your entire life, you have to take that jump.

Evan Le Clus:

Yeah.

Justin Recla:

Folks, we’re talking about Warsha Joshi and Evan Le Clus. Is it Le Clus?

Evan Le Clus:

Le Clus.

Justin Recla:

Le Clus. Awesome. I’m going to have to practice my French.

Evan Le Clus:

Absolutely.

Justin Recla:

This conversation, folks, is one that is near and dear to my heart. Scaling has changed our life, our business, forever. It’s absolutely amazing and worth it to do. My guests today are experts in this.

I just want to point something out. This is what I love about the world today, is you both are located in Dubai and you have a plethora of experiences from where you lived. You both lived in multiple countries. You’re now living in Dubai together. This is… Folks, pay attention because the little world that you live in is much bigger. These two individuals have a lot bigger perspective than most of us here have in the United States. When we get back from break, we’re going to dive a little bit further into what got you started on this path, on helping people dare to scale. But before we go on break, where can people go find more information about you?

Warsha Joshi:

Oh, it’s very simple. Daretoscale.com

Justin Recla:

That’s super simple. Super, super simple. Folks, go take a look at Dare to Scale. I’m promising you. You will not be disappointed because Warsha and Evan both have a lot of experience that you need to take a look at and tap into. Stay with us. We’ll be right back.

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