Intelligence transference and information entanglement as Super Powers. Justin Recla, business operations extraordinaire, talks about his experience being married to an enlightened and empowered woman. He discusses the challenges of living in agreement to operate in total transparency and how he applies that concept to both relationships and business.
Hello everyone this is Tonya Dawn Recla your Super Power Expert. This is a very extra, extra special show I have with my hunk-a-hunk-a-burning love, my husband Justin Recla.
Hi, baby.
So Justin is…he’s amazing obviously. But in addition, well I shouldn’t say amazing “but”, I should say rather AND in addition to being amazing he happens to be the Director of Operations for Super Power Experts. And I thought it was high time that we brought him on the show. He’s been working in the background making sure things are possible and systemizing all of my crazy ideas and visions and so I really want to give you an opportunity to get to know this guy and understand the brilliance that he brings to the equation. I’m really only half of the conversation folks. And so it’s high time that he gets his due with this audience. So, welcome to the show, Justin.
Thanks, Babe. I have to say you’re the face of the operation, and thank God for that.
Haha…Hey, hey, that’s a face I look at that you got there!
No, special treatment for you today. I’m going to do exactly what I do with all my guests and I’m going to through you in and ask, What, are your superpowers?
Well I’ve got a couple but my two biggest ones are Intelligence Transference. And what I like to call information entanglement.
Right. Alright, I’ll take some credit for intelligence transference. Let’s start there. The other one other one is all you, you’re going to have to disentangle that conversation and so talk to me about intelligence transference.
I have the amazing ability to take information from other people and dissected it you know make it my own and repurpose it to. So other people can understand it better. I’m able to break it down. I’m like I’m like a filter for a lot of information, so, a great example there’s a lot of concepts that you talk about that people that are just starting on their journey may not fully understand because they are up in the abstract and they’re way up in the abstract sort of like I’m like an abstract translator. So I take what you say and I able to explain it to people who haven’t quite journeyed as far as you and some of your experts in make it where they can grasp their mind around it. And it really helps them plant the seed because I’m able to filter through to where they understand it.
Oh, that’s awesome. So, that’s what I would consider like the level one. Do you want to dive into a little bit what the level two pieces is? I know we’ve talked about what the evolution that’s going to be.
So that evolution piece of it is literally taking it from just being the filter to speaking it to where it’s now actually my own from my own place of knowingness, at another level so as opposed to being a flow through entity per se it’s now stopping at a whole another level because it’s now becoming my own understanding of the information that is coming through.
Well, I think we’re going to see something that goes even beyond that to where it doesn’t need to come through you at all.
No, it just is.
Well, and my prediction is that you’re able to keep the energy literally outside of yourself and move it from one place to another and transfer without it ever coming through you.
You know we’ve talked about it and we’ve seen that in a couple of instances that have shown up in talking with other people, I’m a connector in that sense of being able to go “Oh, I see this person over here and they get this information” and instead of having to dissect it I’m just able to kind of make the two come together and connect and then poof I’m done.
Yeah. I think we’re going to see some really cool stuff. At least that’s my prediction and so what’s this whatever entanglement you want to propagate?
Well, the Information Entanglement it kind of how I describe how my mind works. One of my super powers, and for the record it just doesn’t understand how my mind works…
For a while there I wasn’t sure it did work? I was super confused.
Well you know it’s the easiest way to explain it is that I’m able to take big scenarios and I see all the angles all of the things that need to be done, all the avenues of approach, all the hidden risks, all of the information that needs to come together to make something work. And so I have an idea, or you have an idea, or somebody else has an idea, and they bring me into that project, my mind can literally paint the entire picture of what has to happen to make it work. And that’s kind of what I do behind the scenes for Super Power Experts is I take all the moving pieces I throw it into my mind and then my mind does its thing and I see all the avenues. Then I’m able to come down and execute one idea at a time knowing that it’s moving towards the bigger picture.
So I will say this in a business you absolutely want one of these people, these Information Entanglement folks, in a marriage you probably absolutely want one as well. But rest assured that if you’re a linear thinker it is the most confounding thing I’ve ever experienced in my existence. But what I love is that I’ve seen the evolution it, because I really did have that bias in the beginning like I couldn’t get how you were thinking. I had to realize you know what some of my biases and stereotypes were around that because it was like because of how you communicate and how you took information and entangled it all up it just didn’t register for me. And over time I love that I can have come to not only appreciate that but really rely on it despite the fact, that obviously creates some communication issues between us at times as we’re trying to figure out what it looks like in your world or how that translate to mine. but being able to marry all of that together super powerful.
Well, like you said I think it’s essential. I mean it’s one of the reasons why I think it’s a part of why Super Power Experts is where it’s at. And from a marriage relationship perspective, it forced the hand of communication because we think differently when it comes to the logistics of things.
Absolutely. Even the visioning part, what I’ve been so amazed with and I’m just in awe of is watching the evolution of that process for you so that now it’s not just in the logistics or now that entanglement piece is the vision as well, which used to be my area, you know. It’s like that used to be my arena and just like initially I had to back off of kind of logistics and you had to back off the visioning what we’re seeing is as the entity that is our relationship grows beyond what you and I are individually it encompasses both of us in all aspects and it creates this really cool synergy. I mean and actually we have the walking embodiment of it in our daughter. And so we’re able to see it abstractly as well as physically.
Yes, she’s our barometer actually.
Absolutely and it’s such a great depiction of what happens when people really merge energetically and are and are able to exponentially increase their capabilities by coming together in some of these higher frequencies.
Yes, definitely. This actually bring up a questions that I want address or ask.
Wait, wait who’s doing the interviewing here? Haha
Haha, No I just want to address that we need to…
That we need to talk about us?
Haha, yes that we really need to talk about us. Haha… No, it’s funny because I get this a lot from other guys and a lot of them ask “How are you married to Tonya?”
Hahahaha… It’s like the million dollar question.
Hahaha it is. It is the million dollar question. Here’s the thing you know I wouldn’t be where I’m at in my own evolution If it wasn’t for your mentorship and our relationship and I’m telling you folks to be married to an enlightened woman there’s no bullshit, there isn’t there is no “whoa is me time.” There is no I’m just going to go hang out at the bar with my buddies’ type time to avoid things. No, it’s deal with your shit and move on because the relationship can’t withstand anything of that nature because mean Tonya and I are very clear that we are either growing together or we’re growing apart. We’re both at the point in our evolution that you drop a quarter in the other person’s on to a whole another level and if we are not on the same page then it’s like you blink and it’s gone. So you have to stay on your A-game on your own personal growth at all times.
I agree. That’s not really a question, though.
No, it’s more of a statement.
Well, I appreciate that. But I think you’re absolutely correct. Actually, I know you’re absolutely correct in the sense that we you know we’ve been very clear from the beginning that how we choose to relate challenges the very definition of being married and coming together in this lifetime and it’s allowed us to quite untraditionally raise our daughter and have an impact on others. And I’m very clear that if you and I hadn’t gone through what we’ve gone through in our marriage and made the choices that we did in how we chose to partner and did the first business together you know the Clear Business Directory.
Super Power Experts could not come into being, because everything that I work on collaboratively with the experts is based in very sound principle that you and I developed and we established here very personally very intimately because synergistic collaboration is intimate folks just like Justin just said there’s no hiding. Like when you operate these higher frequencies when you operate in the abstract frequency there is no privacy.
It’s so funny because it’s you know I don’t know if people realize that you know we started off with the Clear Business Directory and the due diligence stuff based off our experience in the in the spy world. And from that stemmed Personal Power Experts which was the first name for Super Power Experts and that was you and I together. When we first started to do it, I had to laugh because the funny thing is that the due diligence piece is all about transparency. And then in the personal development stuff with Super Power Experts it’s all about transparency. It’s all one in the same folks and it’s probably even more so more important in the Super Power Expert side of the house because it has a direct impact on your personal relationships.
Well it does. And then there’s always the point that people get to we call it the “rejection phase” where they don’t want to deal with that real knowingness, allowing people to see them. And it’s to the point where if you continue on this journey you will, if you haven’t yet, you will hit up against that point and you will have to make a decision about whether or not you want to enter into a world where you knowingly understand that there is no hiding.
You can’t hide energetically from people and you can’t hide anyways. But it’s that precipice of really getting it. When people start battling up against that is when their Super Powers just start to really develop and they see behind the veil and they’re like oh crap like what does this mean. What are the implications for me moving forward?
And the funny thing is with your Super Powers there is no hiding from you.
Hahaha Dun Dun Dun
There is NO hiding from Tonya! Tonya KNOWS. (in a part diabolical part radio show host voice)
Ooh it sounds so daunting.
But it’s not though, because I see what you do for people I see the mirror that you play for the people and I know because I eat, breathe, and sleep it 24/7. And so you know your clients and members of the Net come along and they get just a taste of that. And it’s yeah it’s addictive, it’s scary, but it’s also giving them permission to be who they are live their life to the fullest.
Absolutely. And I appreciate you saying that I know that we’ve certainly had our ups and downs with it because there were no models, we didn’t have anyone modeling this stuff for us. Like for us like we both have you know parents who are happily married and have been their entire existences together. But this feels different maybe they wouldn’t say that it was I don’t know maybe every couple feels that what they’re doing is different. But I do know that we made a commitment to each other to operate in transparency and to bring each other closer to ourselves even if that meant driving them away from the relationship. And that may still happen I don’t know. You know we’ve been at this for a little while now but it’s the choice you know. And in every given moment we have to make the choice to stay together, and to grow together, and to actively be in it together. And in any given moment we can choose not to.
I’m glad you brought that up because going back to my original comment if you want to know what it’s like to be married to an enlightened woman and not only an enlightened woman but to an alpha woman. You know what does that look like. Is that recognized in that if you’re in a relationship with a woman that is self-aware, who is not afraid to speak her mind, and you know is really evolved from that perspective that it’s a choice. And to think that you know she’s going to act differently because you can’t handle it.
Well guess what? You’re going to lose and the relationship is going to end and so that’s what that is like to be involved in an evolved relationship, you have to choose not only your relationship but you have to choose you, and you have to choose from living in your highest, living in your fullest and you call me on my shit all the time. As much as I might want to mope, bitch, gripe and complain to get that what about me moment. No, I don’t get that because it’s not what I chose. And that’s fine I’ll go to the gym or go workout or go for a walk or whatever it might be but I don’t, well I won’t say I don’t, but I try my best not to bring that into the relationship.
Well and what’s even more powerful I think is the conversation of, well let me back up at a very pivotal point in my development with you. The challenge for me was how do I stand in my power and not try to take yours. And that is a challenge because we don’t see that model. You know we play the power hot potato our society is infamous for it…
Especially in relationships.
Yes, especially in relationships so if I feel somehow disempowered I’m going to do everything I can to get back power and sometimes that means taking it away from you or attempting to…
That’s where sarcasm comes into play in a lot of relationships.
A lot of really silly and some painful passive aggressive behaviors and a lot of other things. But at that moment I was really cognate of the fact that I was making a choice to find other ways to communicate and to be with you in those moments. And you know we still have those times of like OK, “How do I communicate what I’m experiencing and what’s true for me in this moment?” And even though you may be the catalyst for it or the mirror for it not blame you for it, but figure out OK how do we kind of do this dance together.
And so I appreciate everything that you’re saying about the positioning and the enlightenment and the alpha and everything else but what it is, it’s not alpha, it’s sovereignty and the goal in my opinion is to exist in a world where everybody has their own sovereignty and we’re connecting and relating through choice and freedom. And the only way to get there is that every single person has to master their own personal power and that’s the piece that gets the bad rap because in trying to figure out what that looks like you do come across as an asshole or bitchy or where you’re going to screw up. You’re going to lash out you’re going to say the wrong thing and trying to reassert yourself into your own existence
But that settles down and then you can sit in this space of sovereignty without trying to assert somebody else’s positioning. And that’s what creates the space then for the other people to do it. And so there’s you know that’s the other place where you’re really shining here lately is in the sense of, yes you chose to partner with me but we chose to partner. There’s no way that the relationship can survive if you don’t continue to step into your own sovereignty. Which means I had to get comfortable there.
I mean the agreement that you and I have is that I had to develop what that looked like, then I had to get comfortable there, and then I had to hold the space so you could do that as well. And for other aware women out there you have to allow the space for that. I know a lot of really high vibrational women who are miserable because they can’t find anybody to partner with. Well, in order to do that…
You have to allow space for it.
You have to and all I can say is be careful what you’re asking for because there are aspects of you that you won’t see until somebody mirrors them for you. And when you ask somebody to do that you damn well be ready to see it. You know I mean that’s my position with that. And it’s just kind of how it works.
I think so. This didn’t turn out to be much of an interview about you I guess its more about us?
Haha, but it was good though, I think it’s important for your listeners and members of the Net too, to get a sneak peek of this about this. Like how do you do it, you know they know you’re married but what does that look like? And you know for them get a sneak peek at how we communicate, how we work together, and how we’ve done it. And by all means you know I play my role with Super Power Experts and I’m the guy behind the scenes helping make things happen. But you know again it wouldn’t be where it’s at if it wasn’t for the two of us working in partnership.
Oh it couldn’t, it would never have even been a concept. And so I appreciate that you mentioned all of that.
And this is it to me folks. This is the new way of doing things and you don’t come into that abstract frequency and play with other people until you’ve done your work and are willing to allow people the space to do theirs and abide by the agreements and the mirroring and everything else. And so certainly I wouldn’t be who I am without you. Nor would I want to be. You know I had that opportunity. I don’t know how many of you know that. When I left government the first time back in 0 7 I had the opportunity to develop a business very similar to this but it singular not a collaborative business. And I saw that trajectory and I walked away from it and went back to government which is where I met Justin.
She really went back to meet me.
I am very clear that’s exactly what I did. I didn’t want to do it alone first for very specific reasons that would have been a different model altogether life model, business model and everything else. And so know what you’re asking for. Know what you want and if you want to partner with somebody, then make sure that you’re creating the space for that.
And when you are engaging, you know Justin isn’t what I thought he was going to be and I’m sure I wasn’t what he thought I was going to be. Be clear that when you connect with that person they may not have exactly the qualities you think you need but I mean look at Justin and I we talked about with the Information Entanglement the linear thinking like that. Those are not real compatible on the surface but they’re absolutely complimentary, though. But it takes work and it takes wanting to figure out how to put those puzzle pieces together. And we bring so much more to the table when we find those complimentary pieces and other people rather than duplicating who we are.
And also, all that comes back down to choice every moment.
Every moment.
So well awesome. You know we covered a lot of information I think we’re going to have many more conversations. But I do appreciate you coming on the show. And we mentioned the Clear Business Directory so you can go find out more about all that at www.clearbusinessdirectory.com.
If you are an enlightened individual obviously you’re listening to this show, so chances are good and you really want to operate in some higher levels. Make sure that you understand some of the principles that Clear Business Directory founded on, it’s a really great opportunity for you to set your business apart from other businesses and to make sure that you’re operating at a higher level. But for your part with Super Power Experts I anticipate that we’ll be hearing more from you in the coming future and I’m excited about that. And I just thank you for being you and choosing us.
Thank you. Love you, babe.
Love you too. And to all of you out there as always we appreciate your loyalty. And until next time go out uncover your superpowers and change the world. Take care.
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