Gary Douglas, bestselling author and international speaker, joins Tonya Dawn Recla to explore the intersection of Super Powers and Access Consciousness. As the founder of Access Consciousness, tools practiced by celebrities, corporate executives, teachers, and health professionals, Gary has impacted the lives of millions. His teachings touch 173 countries in more than 30 languages. Listen in as he shares his deep wisdom about how to take control of your life and truly live a fulfilled existence.

Hello, everyone. This is Tonya Dawn Recla, your super power expert. You all are in for a treat today. This gentleman is no stranger to all things, well, I don’t know what terminology he would use for it. What we use, obviously, is the … embodying the abstract frequency and working miracles and being mutants, and using your super powers and all that stuff.

I think he is the walking, talking epitome of all of that, and I really honor the work that he does in the world. Not just the work itself, but the outreach, the model, the system. Everything about it is just miraculous and I’ve often used their model as my own motivation and kind of guidance with regard to Super Power Experts. It’s really a treat for me to be able to have this conversation with him today.

But Gary Douglas of Access Consciousness fame is with us today. What I hope to do in this dialogue is to create the obviously interweaving between the concept of super powers and what we’re capable of and how we contribute to the world, with the Access Consciousness kind of mission and purpose and what it’s designed to do. I see those as being very closely aligned, and I think that what Access Consciousness brings to the table are a lot of really tried and true methods and practices, and processes that can enable and expedite that growth in so many people, and so I’m happy to be able to promote their work to our audience.

And so, without further ado, please join me in welcoming the remarkable Gary Douglas to the show. Thank you, Gary, for joining us.

Thank you, dear one. That was a great introduction. You’d think that you knew me really well.

I feel like I do. I’ve been stalking you for a while, Gary.

They always stalk me, it’s fine.

Well, I told people as a counterintelligence agent for the government, I said, “The government trained me on how to do surveillance, and so I use that technique.”

That’s good.

I try to use my super powers for good now, so we’ll see. But anyways, so Gary, please enlighten our audience. What are your super powers?

I think the ultimate super power is choice.

Well, I think the ultimate super power, which we all have and usually don’t institute, is choice. It’s like you have a choice and every day and everything you choose, you have … Whatever you choose, you have a choice, and if you recognize you have choice and you start to look, not for the right or wrong choice, but what’s that choice going to create.

And you have to function from the two things that we have is choice and question. If we have question, but we don’t look for an answer, we questions not for an answer but for an awareness. Then we have choices, and those too are about awareness. And that leads us to possibilities, which is about creating greater awareness, which usually takes us back to question and choice. Then the last part is the contribution. We … If we do question, choice and possibility, then the universe will contribute to us and make everything in our lives work. And that to me, is the ultimate gift that all of us have and most of us don’t use.

I love that. It’s interesting. I did an episode with a gentleman who introduced us to the concept of pronoia and as it compares to paranoia. Really the concept is the universe is conspiring on your behalf. I think that our society, perhaps, or programs or whatever, teach us that that’s a Pollyana-ish view of things, so it really can’t be that simple. Often clients will say to me, “Well, you just make it sound so simple,” and I say, “It actually is very simple, it’s just not normal.” I take our role as Super Power Experts … One of the things I think we do remarkably well is we normalize conversation that are otherwise considered out of reach or rose-colored-glasses-ish. The idea that it can’t possibly be that easy. And we could probably talk for years about conspiracy theories as to how those ideas developed.

But ultimately, I love what you’re saying about … We have a choice about whether or not we perpetuate them. Whether or not we continue to embody them. I find a lot of times people don’t even know what’s the alternative. Right? And so how do you help people with that concept?

The alternative is what choice would you make if you were choosing for you? Rather than choosing for somebody else or choosing against you. One of the things that when I was growing up, my parents used to say to me, “You can do anything Gary! Don’t do that. You can do anything! But don’t do that.” I go, “How come if I can do anything, I can’t do this?” Cause guess what? The ones I wanted to do the most were the ones I was told not to do.

So I went out and I did them. And then I discovered why it might not have been in my best action to choose them. But I chose them. I began to realize, oh, choice creates. What does it create? Well, it creates the good or the bad that shows up in your life. You gotta be willing to look at it and go, “Okay, I chose this and it didn’t turn out the way I wanted it to, now what? Do I have a new choice?” And the reality is we have ten seconds to choose anything in our lives. The ten second increments of choice is the greatest gift you can give yourself. Because that way it’s not the Lord of the Rings choice – I gotta make the right choice to get it right forever and all eternity. I’ve got the choice, now what would I like to choose?

It’s so funny you bring up the Lord of the Rings idea. Our daughter, I shared with you before the show, she’s eight. She hates the question people always ask her, what she wants to be when she grows up. She hates that question. And she looks up and she goes, “I’m just gonna focus on what I’m doing now. Thank you.” She’s so delicate in it but she comes home and kind of fumes. She’s like, “Mom that’s the worst question ever.”

I got …

It’s too far out there.

I got an answer. I’ll give her the answer I came up with at six. They would ask me, “What do you wanna be when you grow up?” I’d go, “Happy.”

“No no son, what do you want to be when you grow up?” “Happy.” “No you wanna be a doctor or lawyer or Indian chief?” “I don’t care as long as I’m happy.”

Beautiful.

That’s it! I’m happy today!

And choosing to be that right now, too.

Yep.

I think when we set that as the out there concept, we play the waiting game. I can’t be happy until “bam bam bam bam”. Some of the game …

That’s part of our reality. I don’t understand that part.

Like I said, I think I could come up with some pretty cool conspiracy theories about it.

Yeah, I know, but they would all be conspiracy theories. They wouldn’t necessarily be true.

Absolutely true. One of the things I’m really curious about … For those of you who aren’t aware, Access Consciousness has at the beginning a lot of processes and stuff that trains people and practices ways to accelerate, this is obviously my language, ways to accelerate your growth towards actualization. Gary, first before I ask my questions, tell the audience a little bit about how you describe Access Consciousness.

It’s weirdest, wildest, wackiest things that you have ever done, and it will work.

And there you have it.

And there you have it. It works.

I love it. So how did …

I can’t describe how I got to what I got to, but what I realized is … I tried every church, cult and religion known to mankind at one time or another. All of them had good things in em, but none of them worked all the time. I didn’t like that. I wanted everything to work all the time. What part of “Everything’s supposed to work all the time” do you now get? When it didn’t work, I was like, okay, this is not acceptable to me. I need something that works all the time. I searched and searched and searched. And that’s the reason I did all these different churches, cults and religions, was I was trying to find something that would work. I would find piece here and a piece there and piece everywhere. The one thing I did discover is truth exists in all things, but the problem is, most of the things take one truth, and they decide that is the truth, and then they don’t search beyond that. You’ve always got to question everything.

I grew up in the sixties, when you were … Question authority. And I went, “Why would you just questions authority? Why wouldn’t you question everything?”

So I questioned everything. And I go, okay so how come that’s set, and that’s set and that’s set? What makes that right? What makes that wrong? What makes that … I questioned everything. But then, I was that kind of kid.

Yeah. It’s interesting because you could be describing my life. I see that commonality in all lot of the folks that we have on the show in the sense that, I call it checking the boxes. You kind of have to go through and check all the boxes to find out not that, not that, not that. Certainly that’s not the only way to go through it but I do see that commonality in a lot of folks.

It’s the most fun way to go through it.

Exactly. For me at least, I was very clear that a lot of it was, gosh they look really good on paper, but ultimately, it was for purely selfish reasons I was going through all of it. What I was seeking, that thing like you say, that works all the time.

Yeah.

And I too didn’t find it. But I don’t want to brush over or diminish in any way what I can only assume was part of the journey in you bringing forward some of this information. No matter how desperate we get to find that solution for ourselves, there does come that moment of, as we’re hearing information or downloading it or receiving or whatever your process is with it, really kind of sitting in that for a minute and go, am I really doing that? Did you have that moment of “What am I really saying here? And am I ready to say it?”

I think really what it became … What occurred for me is I went to a bunch of metaphysical people, and they would tell me that I had to come up with my purpose, that I had to have a high purpose. And if I didn’t have a high purpose, then I was going to fail mankind. I would spend hours coming up with a high purpose. Then they’d go, “That’s not a high enough purpose,” and I’d go, “You don’t get to judge what my purpose is. And how the hell do you know better than me? What makes you think your purpose is better than my purpose? What gives you the right to judge my purpose or what I choose?”

Judgment is what limits what we perceive.

And I began to realize that we learn judgment very early on. And we’re taught that our judgment is what we have to use. But in reality, judgment is what limits what we can perceive. And if it limits what we can perceive does it also limit what we can know and what we can be? And definitely what we can receive. I began to realize, judgment is not a good choice. Judgment is something we do, but it’s not something that may be necessary. What if there was a different choice? I began to realize, wait a minute, there is a different choice. It’s called choose different! Choose again! I began with the process of looking at if this is the highest purpose and all you’re doing is asking me to give you all my money, then how is your higher purpose better than my higher purpose? What the hell is this? Once again, it was the questioning thing.

I was always questioning everything and everyone and wondering why is yours better than mine? Why am I not as good as you? Why do you see me as less than? What is it that makes the difference for all of us? And realizing that judgment is what people use to defend against and defend for. They defend against what is possible and defend for the rightness of their point of view. I think you have a choice in life. You can be right or you can be free. Which one do you want?

I love that. And ultimately judgment stems from the idea of thinking that we have something to fear. That we’re not whole and confident and actualized in and of ourselves. So there’s a self-dominion concept that gets reflected in judgment.

I have a question for you.

Sure.

In an emergency situation, do you get calm, cool and collected and handle it? Or do you fall apart and fly away?

Me?

Yeah.

A.

Fear is a lie we buy to live in this reality.

Yeah. Most people do. And that’s because there is no such thing as fear. It’s a lie we buy to live in this reality.

Hold on, hold on. Making a note here, Gary. Fear is a lie we buy to live in this reality.

Yeah.

Nice. I like it.

I lived it. I was eleven years old and we went to an amusement park. And I’m really excited because we’re going on the … Actually I was younger than that, I was about seven. And we were going on the … Not the roller coaster … The Ferris wheel. And I’m jumping up and down and my mom says, “Don’t be afraid, Gary, it’s okay. It’s gonna be fine. Don’t be afraid.” So I thought that excitement that I experienced was fear. For year, I thought that was fear. Then I got old enough to have a hard on, and began to realize, wait minute, if this is fear, I definitely want it.

Two thumbs up. More of that please.

I discovered in that that fear is not what we think it is, and fear is not necessarily always there for us. I discovered really early on that if there was an emergency, some people … I had one friend, he would just run around like a chicken with his head falling off if something was an emergency. He would fall apart and run around like crazy. I never did. I just got calm, cool and collected and handled it.

It was amazing to realize, wait a minute, I don’t have any fear here. I have something else. What have I got? And I realized what I’ve got is awareness and choice. We always have a choice whether we do the reaction or whether we do the action. For me, and for most of the people I know, action is more real than reaction.

I love that. You say fear is not real and that in emergency situations people are going to be calm, cool and collected. But then you gave me an example of your friend, so what is it that kind of dictates who recognizes fear and who doesn’t? Even if an emergency situation?

I’d say that if you’re … What we see in Access is there are two kinds of people on the planet: humans and humanoids. Humans tell you how you’re wrong, and judge everybody and tell everybody how they’re right, and you’re wrong. Humanoids are always telling themselves how wrong they are and how they’re fucked up and they got terrible problem and all that kind of stuff. But they always question everything, and especially they judge themselves. Humanoids will judge themselves, but not others. Humans will always judge others and not themselves. A human never sees that they’ve ever done anything wrong. A humanoids only sees that they have done wrong somehow. Not necessarily true. You gotta get to the point where you recognize are you a human or a humanoid? And if you judge yourself all the time and wonder what’s wrong with you constantly, then you’re a humanoid. If you know you’re right and everybody else is wrong then you’re a human. And its not one’s better than the other. They’re just different. The humanoid will always look for a different possibility.

But humanoids always also write all the great art, all the great literature, all the greatness of mankind came from humanoids. Cause they were always the people that questioned and searched and looked for a different possibility. And were not willing to live the same old same old reality.

That’s interesting because I’ve often said … People ask me how did I get to some of the conclusions and everything that I have? And I believe and I’ve stated that my willingness to self-question is my secret. It’s constantly bringing it to the self first and saying okay, what is this, what can I do differently? And that’s allowed me to have a viewpoint that felt better to me than constantly looking outside of myself. I sat with it for a little bit. What if I’m just … I drank the koolaid or whatever it is and I’m just fooling myself? And I really ran that thread through and said okay, let’s say that I’m wrong, and let’s say that we really don’t have that much choice and that much control over our existence. Then at the end result, I die and find out that I was wrong and there’s nothing else. But, in the midst of it, I lead a pretty fun life. Because I believe that I have choice and I get to create what happens to me.

Those were odds I was willing to live with. And that’s really what it came down to and why I chose to play in some of these fears.

Somebody asked what’s the purpose of life? And I said to have fun. And if you ain’t having any, kill yourself. Stop wasting the air on the planet.

Absolutely. I went through a series of I think it was about three months where every morning I woke up and said do I wanna stay here? And I sat with it and I felt into it. And I was like okay, yeah I guess I’ll stay at least one more day. And then the immediate thought was alright then I’m gonna play. If I’m gonna stay here, cause I believe it to be a voluntary existence, then I’ll play. But what it did was it helped remove all of those layers of I’m somehow obligated to be here. Or that in the obligation somehow I have this burden or this cross to bear. I felt all those layers kind of coming off when I was willing to sit in that space. But, I think the majority of society would say that that’s a morbid kind of view. For you to say take yourself out if you’re not willing to play and be happy. We don’t really honor that in our society, at least in most circles.

No.

And so we create fun things like cancer and all kinds of other excuses to take ourselves out because they feel more noble.

Yep. It how you … Sickness and illness is considered noble? Why?

Yeah …

What makes …

Because we’re not willing to look at our loved ones and say “I’m done here. Thank you. I’m leaving.” You know?

“I’m done, I’m leaving.”

Yeah. It’s like, what’s it to you? I just wanna go.

Yeah. It’s like, “I’m through with this” is a strange concept. But I totally get it. For me, at one time in my life, I had a back surgery, and I didn’t see anybody for three months. Nobody came to see me, nobody talked to me, I disappeared. I was reading a short story about a kid who was in a big family and he died on his birthday and nobody noticed. And they didn’t notice him for three days until his body started to smell. I thought, oh my god, that’s really sad. I went, wait a minute, and the difference for me is what?

Wow.

That’s when I went, oh. If you’re not creating something and making something for yourself, then you’re as good as dead.

And if you say that to everybody around you, what can you create?

That’s beautiful. I think it does help to then pull the shroud off of the fear dialogue. Circling back around to that concept, because it … Ultimately all we have in our way is ourselves, but it’s so hard to see sometimes and we think that that fear is real. And we’re taught, as you identified, so many subtle ways to believe that. It really is this ripping off …

So, anyway we’re gonna take a quick break. When we come back I want to talk with you about some of the processes and how that works. Cause I do think that they’re so valuable. So we’ve been talking with Gary Douglas of Access Consciousness. Gary, where can people go to find out more about you?

You can go to Gary Douglas at Access Consciousness or Access Consciousness or you can look me up on Yahoo! or any place else. And you can see all the bad press and the good press and the mediocre press and who cares.

Perfect, well we’re gonna take a quick break and we will be right back so stick with us.

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