From Oneness to Wholeness
How can you shift from oneness to wholeness? What’s the difference between the two? In this episode of The Apple Flavored Pomegranate, hosts Justin and Tonya Dawn Recla introduce the topic from oneness to wholeness, and how to make that shift in your life. The couple shares their journey with writing their vows, and agreeing to walk each other into oneness. They discuss breaking boxes in your relationship, and so much more. Tune in today to learn all about how to dance in between oneness and wholeness.
Tonya Dawn Recla:
Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Apple Flavored Pomegranate. I’m Tonya Dawn Recla here with my beautiful husband.
Justin Recla:
Hello, everybody, Justin Recla here. The Husband.
Tonya Dawn Recla:
Husband, that’s cool. Like we’re talking a lot about labels and identities and stuff in our existence and boxes. I love the term husband like there’s just as welling up of what that is. And it also is not all you are to me. And so we’ll sit with that. So thank you for the opportunity folks and for playing our little game. So we can have even more reflections here today we’re talking all about from oneness to wholeness, which is really a pause because all the threads were sort of weaving together, it’s actually really perfect that that reflection just came forward. Because what the biggest, core element of this conversation today is centered around how Justin and I wrote our vows to walk with each other toward oneness. That was our commitment to each other. We both wanted to have a deep and fulfilling and personal relationship with the divine. At that time, I think it was more like we were referring to God. And a lot of times we still do, and leave that open. And that journey has been something really wonderful. So however you refer to that, which is beyond yourself, that you kind of lean into from time to time for your guidance and direction or holding. And embracing that was what we were feeling right. That was the sense of what we were agreeing to and oneness was the closest we knew, and could kind of conceptualize what this should look like where to become one both of us had had Christian backgrounds. And so where two became one was a part of us, right, all of that was running through us. And we wanted to know what that was all about when we wanted to expand it out bigger than the box of the definition of what that meant and what the religion in itself held. We saw something far more expensive than that.
Justin Recla:
Yeah, I’m glad you said that. Because I often forget that it’s viewed through those lenses even. Everything in my space. So extremely expansive, and I see the entire expansiveness in everything and so I don’t look at it through the religious lens. So that was really a great reminder, it’s important to acknowledge. We saw a model and the good aspects of the model work and we expanded out on those and we left everything else behind.
Tonya Dawn Recla:
Very cool. That’s a good way to explain it. And that journey specifically is like, first of all, we wanted to break out of all the boxes to pursue oneness. And then we found ourselves needing to break out of the oneness box like it was like we hold up this is kind of restrictive. Because we, you know, as most of us are experiencing right now as we move the survival programs and integrate that information and look into what it looks like to operate from something other than survival reaction. In that journey, you find yourself in these kinds of disparate reality situations where your consciousness is hugely expensive and connected. And Justin, I’ve had amazing moments of oneness and connection together, and really know each other on many different levels. And then there’s this other reality where it’s like we couldn’t be further apart. And as we pieced it together as social scientists that the reality where we feel so incredibly separate from each other apart from each other, is a layer that we all share, which says, you know, we really truly can’t trust each other. We really can’t come into oneness, we don’t want to like when we start to see these aspects in the person we love that come forward to like, I don’t know, that I want to go into one is without one right now, no thanks, not really interested in cohering, with whatever that is, you’ve got going. And it’s difficult, on all levels, to reconcile this oneness sort of connection that you have, and then this other reality, and through this beautiful process and the gift of Sefa. And in our family and our coupling in our organization, the creative energy field activation model, what we’ve been able to discover finally, that’ll make sense, is to pursue oneness prior to holding this will often lead to this right? And it’s kind of both and it’s not like you can pursue one without the other. You know, it doesn’t work that way. They really work in concert. And there are phases of that oneness journey that require wholeness. And so we’re going to talk a little bit about what wholeness means and why we have it. Yeah. And why we really shifted our focus thanks to Sefa to understand how important that wholeness component is, in everything, all aspects of life and everything we’re facing, even as a global community. This concept of wall one of wholeness holds the key to what we’re looking for. And so we’re gonna dive into that after the break. But before we do Justin’s going to share a beautiful poem that he found that really encompasses what we’re actually talking about here go for a bit, absolutely.
Justin Recla:
This poem is called thought by D. H. Lawrence, though, I love thought, but not the juggling and twisting of already existing ideas. I despise that self-important game. Thought is the wheeling up of unknown life into consciousness. Thought is the testing of statements on the touchstone of consciousness. Thought is gazing at the face of life and reading what can be read. Thought is pondering over experience and coming to a conclusion. Thought is not a trick, an exercise, or a set of dodges. Thought is a man in his wholeness, wholly attending.
Tonya Dawn Recla:
Beautiful encapsulation. Make sure you’re getting over to superpowerexperts.com and getting signed up for that core one class folks, I cannot overemphasize just how amazing it is to have a process that you know, you can lean into no matter what’s going on in your relationship, in your family, in your workplace in your life. So many phenomenal reports on this, trust me, you’re going to think of getting signed up for the core one class by going to superpowerexperts.com. You’ll see the list there for our next available one and join us in my mind,
Justin Recla:
I say join us in the pursuit of wholeness there was something that was like it’s like this little thread it was and what right like there was this like the whole universe it just opened up of like, join us in and it’s like, everything right? wholeness, really. And from oneness to wholeness is today’s conversation. We’re gonna get more into that in a moment. So thank you all for this journey with us.
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