Blessing. So, family, this is Jewels with Cosmic Consciousness, Coding the New Human for the New Earth. And I am so excited about our guest today, Dr. Debra Muth. Dr. Deb is a Doctor, Priestess, along with your host of the Let’s Talk Wellness Now podcast. It is a mission to teach women how they can use their feminine energy to build the life and business they desire.
After using her masculine energy to grow the Midwest’s largest integrative medical clinic, Serenity Healthcare Center, along with six other businesses, Dr. Deb realized there was something missing for her. At age 50, she realized that she had left behind her feminine energy during this process.
After feeling lost and far from feminine, Dr. Deb sought out how to embrace her feminine energy. That’s why she created the Phoenix Factor coaching program, restructuring her life where feminine energy always leads while embracing health and wellness.
So I just learned so much about you just there. So welcome to the show, Debra. I’m so happy to have you here.
Thank you, Jewels. I’m so excited to be here with you and have a conversation today.
Beautiful. Well, so let’s just dive right in and we’re going to go to this question that I feel so excited about, and I think everybody’s going to really want to hear what you have to say. So the question is, is physical pain an emotion?
That is such a great question and goes super deep for us. And I will say, yes, many times what we’re feeling emotional or what we’re not dealing with emotionally will end up presenting itself in a physical nature.
I’ve been practicing medicine for over 20 years and I’ve worked with over 10,000 women. And I can tell you where I see the show up the most is in women who have forgotten to take care of themselves, or they’ve put themselves on the back burner, they’re doing everything for everyone else, and those women that are in really unhealthy relationships. Those are the women that typically present with a lot of discomfort in their body, a lot of pain, a lot of fibromyalgia type symptoms, pain, fatigue, nerve stuff.
And once they heal that relationship or they move on from a relationship that’s no longer serving them, miraculously, those physical symptoms that we’re presenting start to go away and faster than you can even imagine. They really go away quickly. And unless they repeat those same bad patterns of living, those symptoms will stay away indefinitely. But it’s common that I see women go back and replace a bad relationship with another bad relationship and those physical symptoms come right back again.
It’s funny as you were talking immediately, I had fibromyalgia come up, I was like, “Oh yeah, that’s how that would be.” So it’s funny that you reflected that. So I want to go back into more of what you just said, but the next question that immediately is coming through is how does emotion affect pain?
So emotion and pain are definitely tied together. The more emotional unrest we have or the emotional dysfunction we have, the more physical pain our body is going to be in, the deeper it’s going to be, the more difficult it’s going to be to remove it. And so much so that a lot of times people don’t understand that emotions and pain are so deeply connected, and even where we feel the pain can be seen with different emotions. Right?
Absolutely. So given an example of that, let’s say somebody comes to you and they have this really weird pain in their back and they’ve had it forever. They’ve gone to the chiropractor and the massage therapist, but it’s just always there. How would you treat them?
Yeah, that’s a great question. So looking at different symptoms of where the pain is, and for your example, being back pain, we want to explore the different parts of the body that are attached to different levels of pain and different types of pain. So oftentimes the back is a betrayal. It’s like being stabbed in the back, that old saying.
Back pain is commonly a betrayal of some kind. So if we don’t look at the emotional components of where the pain comes from, and we just look at the physical, like, “Okay, did you tweak your back? Did you do something you shouldn’t have?” We’re never going to get to the root cause of what that underlying pain is.
I remember seeing a patient a few years ago and she had lost a loved one that was very near and dear to her heart. And she developed heart pain and heart symptoms and ended up with a heart attack, which has this really long name called takotsubo, and it basically means a broken heart. And she developed this mild form of a heart attack simply because her heart was broken because she lost this loved one.
And it’s good to see that we’re starting to see that in traditional medicine, but it’s very rare to see somebody actually say, this is what my cardiologist told me it was from.
Absolutely. Well, that just gave me chills because I think that’s the beauty of what you’re doing, is that you’re bridging those two and it’s really, really special.
So I want to go into more about your story and just more about how we can start to identify our emotions and be able to bring it in and connect the pain and read what’s there, all of that fun stuff. But before we do, we’re going to go for a quick break. Why don’t you tell us where to find you, Deb? Because I know everybody’s going to want to find you at the end of this.
Absolutely. Thank you. So you can find me on Facebook at Dr. Deb or Serenity Healthcare Center on Facebook. You could also find me at www.phoenixfactor.com. This is where I help high-powered women want to stay young, be healthy, and do everything that they can to stay in the game as long as they want to.
Oh, beautiful. I love that. All right, so we’ll be right back and stay tuned.
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